"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

if Jacob does turn out to be a godly human-ish being of some sort, they're gonna need an actor who is somehow more charismatic and authoritative than Ben, Widmore or Alpert to make us believe that these guys would actually take orders from him.

Some of these Unanswered Questions are like Huh?

Does Cindy know that her lover Gary Troup was on the plane? Does she know that he is dead?

What is the relationship between the dressing on Claire's head at the tattoo parlor ("Par Avion") and the one on her head in Jacob's cabin ("Cabin Fever")?"

What was the meaning of the dream Claire details in her diary about the "Black Rock" in the Episode ("Special") from Season One?

What were the consequences of Kilo not getting his share from the Jessica con? ("Confidence Man")

Why did Matthew Abaddon send a cultural anthropologist on the mission to find the Island?

Some is this stuff is along the lines of "How did Hurley get from the living room to the kitchen when they didn't show us him walking there?"

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I find the "four-toed statue" to be the least interesting unanswered question. Have Lindelof/Cuse indicated that it's a clue to something huge? It's always felt like a kind of goofy throwaway to me. Or maybe I'm just nervous that any extended explanation could be super cringe-y.

Man, I don't envy Lindelof and Cuse. A series finale fuck-up would be like David Chase x infinity for those dudes, press-wise (though I thought the Sopranos ending was awesome).

i find wtf is going on w/this crazy island to be the most interesting unanswered question

The four toed statue is probably linked to whatever is inside the temple, which is also presumably the answer to whatever the point of Smokey is.

Srsly show us the fucking temple already.

What is the relationship between the dressing on Claire's head at the tattoo parlor ("Par Avion") and the one on her head in Jacob's cabin ("Cabin Fever")?"

it got a bit messy but in the end their friendship was stronger than ever

Did Hurley still eat that burrito he threw at the wall when he saw Ben? (sorry if it wasn't a burrito)

Maybe they gave him a new burrito in prison.

http://thebeautybrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/hot-pockets.jpg

and no. he ran out to get arrested.

doh i just realized that ben would be interested in sun because if he was spying on all of them, he would've known she was seeking out Widmore's help.

God that Hot Pocket is the most revolting thing I've ever seen. Is that picture supposed to look appetising?

its 4 throwing @ walls

Alanis Morrisette writing for Lostpedia:

Both Ben Linus and Charles Widmore have people watching all of the Oceanic plane crash survivors off the Island. (Irony)

would not be surprised if both sun + sayid are in '08 with ben - they're the two who are most involved in the personal war between ben and widmore. whereas the rest seem more like pawns in a larger game involving the island itself.

Preview for next week implies strongly that Sawyer meets up with Kate, but I really doubt it.

Dharma! (bump)

I missed the first 10 minutes and I am thoroughly confused.

The "crying" acting in this episode is sub-subpar.

this show will be the death of me yet. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...

70s are not good for sawyer's hair :(

lol sawyer's hair yes. something came to mind while watching this episode--how were dharma drops still happening in 2004?

btw kate is skank. juliet anyday.

not really looking forward to the jack-kate-sawyer-juliet butthurtedness to come

did horace say "alert the arab" or "alert the arrow" when richard breached the perimeter?

i heard arrow.

The Arrow was one of the stations, I thought.

This was the episode where it struck me that Juliet is much hotter this year. She seems to have given up that puzzled-looking, harsh, and often unsettling facial expression. Sawyer's love has transformed her into a radiant beauty, oh yes, and then Kate shows up on the island looking like a junky. What a crackhead Kate is compared to how beautiful Juliet is now. To think I nearly gave up on this show.

70s juliet was way hotter than island juliet. lol sawyer makes her hot, but only because he loses is own hotness in giving it to her?

He has lost whatever appeal he had.

Maybe hotness on the island is a zero sum game? If everyone looks hot at the same time, the island moves.

And the new girl, the one that has a babby, is super hot while her boyfriend really isn't.

omg worst wig ever btw

"your buddy out there with the eyeliner" LOOOOL

I liked this episode a lot

Yeah, great stuff. I loved how the "Three Years Later" jump made perfect sense but was still pretty shocking in how it happened.

(also agree 100% on Kate looking like a junkie and Juliet suddenly being way hotter than last year... I think this is intentional, production-wise, since Kate has gotten more and more reprehensible as a character too)

not really looking forward to the jack-kate-sawyer-juliet butthurtedness to come

^^^this. was very happy for juliet and sawyer, stupid jack and kate.

really enjoyed this episode, lots of good bits: the time flash spoiling the four-toed statue reveal, the return of sawyer nicknames, miles calling them out on their Orchid-beach-Orchid-beach plan, the general awesomeness of juliet. and that guy who played Jimmy Barrett on Mad Men is great - i hope he sticks around for a few more episodes.

i wonder when alpert decided to go hippie. and whether he ever washes his one blue shirt + slacks getup.

sawyer is rehashing his own jokes now ... actually I guess it was supposed to be a lol that he had to change "coconut Internet" to "coconut telegraph" since the Internet wasn't invented. it only took me 4 hours to get it :)

The actress who plays Amy (aka Michelle from 24) is so awesome, I don't know why she isn't in more stuff. I'm glad she's going to be in more than one episode.

It's been obvious since last season's finale that Sawyer and Juliet were going to get together, but now that it's happened I really like it. I hope the writers do something sensible with it rather than dive straight into melodramatic love-quadrangle hell.

Also, have we ever seen Horace before? Because he's a delight, all stumblin' around and throwing dynamite at shit.

uh yeah a bunch of times dude... Horace was there at Ben's birth, he was the guy who recruited Ben and his dad to Dharma, his ghost appeared to Locke in a dream and led him to Jacob's cabin.

Woah, I didn't even realize until just now that this means the statue was still standing in 1974 (right? or did I miss a flash?).

xpost ha, shows what I remember. I blame those jumpsuits, I just assume everyone in the Dharma Initiative is a chill, scruffy-haired hippie.

And I think there was an intervening flash when they saw the statue -- didn't they see it right before the final flash made them all freak out and fall on the ground?

yep. they saw the statue and miles says that they're at a point wayyyyy before the well was built, then underground locke turns the wheel, there's another flash and the well is back in 1974.

speaking of Ben, where is he? he's supposed to be on the island by now and surely they'd know him if they've been with Dharma for three years.

Ben didn't show up on the island he was about 10- or 12-ish? So it might be before then. But yeah, if he was born in the early '60s (this was assumed because his current age was placed around his 40s at some point) he probably should be on the island by now... but who knows, I'm not too sure we're done with the time-jumping at all.

yeah i think dan is still working on trying to get them back to 2008.

i was just thinking that even if ben wasn't there by 1974, he should have been there by 1977.

oh and jin is like totally fluent now! <3

(Re: Ben) Sort of... I got the sense from one of the Darlton interviews that the timeline as we know it is not... completely accurate, especially with regards to these kind of matching relative time placements of events with "real time". This probably means they are rewriting more Lost history on the fly - they spoiled a thing or two I'm not gonna repeat. (And yeah, the three year jump was a good excuse to have Jin a lot more fluent now.)

This was probably my favorite episode of the season thus far. From a story-telling perspective it just felt nice and relaxed and self-confident.