Would wear
http://i.imgur.com/Ut7pvAw.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
Is there talk of a follow up being in production or anything? Or was it considered too much of a disaster? Seemed to be deliberately setting itself up for a sequel.Have to go and see another to see if its as good/bad as this.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
Seemed to be deliberately setting itself up for a sequel.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5VqKDR34LSI/UL__EWqHk2I/AAAAAAAAFqM/Clk4a-xjvsw/s1600/alien_poster.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
Well yeah, but I thought she (Noomi Rapace) was off to roam the universe and deliver hurt unto the bastard Alien types with her sidekick David, a reconnected head. For thinking they was like God and shit.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
Hundreds of years pass ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
hurt, iirc, gets delivered unto the bastard alien types in the 1979 movie?
― mind totally brown (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link
heh
― i am curious #yolo (wins), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
Scott is apparently doing a sequel sans Lindelof
― Number None, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
a bastard alien type gets delivered through John Hurt in that 1979 film but it's a different species.
Certainly looked at the end of Prometheus as though they intended to continue the story of the character played by Noomi Rapace. IMDB has an entry for a Prometheus 2 but not fully populated, so I am still wondering if that is on the books even if it is backburnered.
Was Prometheus thought to be a success on any level? Box office or critical or other audience-wise? Or was it just a mess that people went to see out of curiosity over the Ripley trilogy or quadrilogy or whatever. & it probably was a better film than the Alien Vs Predator ones wasn't it, somebody probably already says that earlier in the thread.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link
it was a total success in being a huge wasteful clusterfuck and generating a great ilx thread
― mind totally brown (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
i think the AVP had such low expectations that people (incl. james cameron) were almost pleasantly surprised by it.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
Was Prometheus thought to be a success on any level? Box office or critical or other audience-wise? ― Stevolende, Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:57 PM (44 minutes ago)
― Stevolende, Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:57 PM (44 minutes ago)
Rotten Tomatoes = 74% (269 critical reviews), 69% audienceMetacritic = 65/100IMDB = 7.1/10
Box OfficeWorldwide Gross: $404MBudget: $180M
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
lol fanboys will suck up any shit, proven by science again and again
― Scotch Derek (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link
I watched Alien the other day and the scene with the navigator in the boneship is so haunting
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
This (Prometheus) is so unnecessary – everything that matters is there in that scene in Alien
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
Kind of more of a dilution of the franchise than AvP because it comes so much closer to being worthwhile
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link
nah there can't be a frame in AvP that's less worthwhile than this idiot joke
― Scotch Derek (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link
and i say this assuming that AvP is shite for manchildren
― Scotch Derek (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link
The thing with AvP is that the film taps into the lowest possible level of the Alien franchise – some execs clearly got together, looked up two Classic Movie Monsters, and put them together, much like they've been doing for years (Dracula vs Werewolf vs Swamp Man or whatever). As far as AvP is concerned, the Giger alien is just another movie monster with a set of abilities that we know about before we watch the film, it impregnates people like how Dracula drinks blood and the Mummy wears bandages.
IIRC you also see the alien's foot several times in the film which shows what level we're working on. AvP (and Alien Resurrection) might be bad films but they don't go anywhere near the parts of Alien that actually matter.
Whereas Prometheus ...
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link
And it's also sad how much that was supposedly clever and revelatory (and which fell flat) in Prometheus was just a retread of AvP. I mean, they both feature the ageing/dying original Weyland on a quest to find alien answers, and discover the secret creators/rulers of humanity. In Prometheus they're space jockeys, in AvP they're Predators, and in neither case were the answers worth the viewing.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 05:10 (ten years ago) link
I'll take trash (AVP) over garbage (this)
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 05:21 (ten years ago) link
Are there any good films where it turns out that aliens created people? With the exception of Quatermass & The Pit I can't think of any
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 06:42 (ten years ago) link
2001 bro (ok yeah you can split hairs about what constitutes "creation" but c'mon now)
― it's going to be a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5PtyrewSs (latebloomer), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 07:23 (ten years ago) link
From watching the lengthy making-of documentary on this, it's clear that the entire production was rushed due to a tight turnaround. The design departments managed to pull off - and I still think it looks great - but the script is, obviously, just a completely badly thought through, underdeveloped shambles, and Ridley Scott himself made a lot of bad choices on top of it (not least the last minute decision to back away from Prometheus being a straight ahead prequel to Alien). I don't hate it; I like the look of it, and the design, I like Fassbender and Theron, and I like the Forbidden Planet-y space exploration vibe, but it's massively frustrating, story wise.
AVP is just noise.
― DavidM, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
A well designed, well acted prequel to a great franchise that has a piece of shit script is much more worthy of scorn than a knockoff avp type reboot
― tracked like on pirate bay (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
tbf i did think it explored the theme of helmets rather well
― shillelagh law (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
lindelof with insider fuckin knowledge there obv
― tracked like on pirate bay (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
i'm hoping they make another one to go into that whole area of taking your boots off and putting them back on again
― shillelagh law (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
They covered that suit stuff pretty well in "Gravity," don't know if it will ever be done better.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
god i love this ridiculous movie
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
I agree that AVP at least delivered what it promised - dumb schlock. It's still a headache to actually sit through though.
The whole of Prometheus needs to be redubbed with an entirely different script.
― DavidM, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link
YOU need to be redubbed with an entirely different script
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
this movie really stuck with me, remember the whole thing v clearly
not sure if that means it's quality but ...
― the late great, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
I will go and watch the sequel in 2015
― cardamon, Thursday, 12 December 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link
yeah, I agree that AvP was quite trashy dumbness but this was insultingly stupid, to the point where I just started openly laughing during the idiot autodoc sequence
This was bad enough that Lindelof had to respond on Twitter to the RedLetterMedia guys jubilantly trashing him so much
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Thursday, 12 December 2013 05:20 (ten years ago) link
"had to"
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 12 December 2013 06:34 (ten years ago) link
'Twas a most thorough drubbing
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Thursday, 12 December 2013 06:47 (ten years ago) link
god i love *this* ridiculous movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0
― Scuse me while I kiss this guy correspondent (ledge), Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:29 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBaKqOMGPWc
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 December 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
Benjamin Button & Super Vagina
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 12 December 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
Dark Horse is putting out a whole interlocking line of Alien, Predator, AvP and Prometheus comics soon. Because:
― Sticky Gary (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
fuck, let's hope they can reconcile the timelines...
― Number None, Friday, 13 December 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
pred ship
― mh, Friday, 13 December 2013 04:02 (ten years ago) link
Someone might be able to do something with Prometheus in comic book form
― cardamon, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
It's certainly easier to just throw in the trash.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
there are really 3500 posts abt this?
if i were feeling generous i'd call it a missed opportunity.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 January 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link
I thought the same thing but then I watched the movie
― 龜, Sunday, 19 January 2014 03:44 (ten years ago) link
just so many simple things done poorly
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 January 2014 03:49 (ten years ago) link
i was one of the poor simple things done when i paid to see this shit
― is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 January 2014 03:57 (ten years ago) link
http://danecobain.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/cbgheart.gif
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 January 2014 14:02 (ten years ago) link