2008 Primaries Thread

never stopped Gerry Ferraro

Um actually it did.

BEDFORD, N.H. - He flatlined in Iowa and he's struggling in New Hampshire, but Rudy Giuliani shook off the early-state blues Thursday as only he can.

"None of this worries me - Sept. 11, there were times I was worried," Giuliani said.

LOL

haaaa

everything can be compared to 9/11

Grrrr....

Recent re-run Onion headline:

"Giuliani Elected President of 9/11"

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Giuliani.article.jpg

nice Indiana Jones style plane with red line

New Thread, Thank fuck for that.

The more I see Obama speak the more I warm to Edwards. Obama says almost nothing but says it gracefully and sincerely, Edwards has much more substance but somehow I don't believe it when he says it.

New thread, but the old one is thriving in a way that this one is not. Why is that??

gabbneb's stable of acolytes.

At this point, whether a pol believes what he says is irrelevant to me (besides being, to some extent, unknowable). I care is that s/he's held to what s/he runs on, which given the National ADD Culture is admittedly a semi-fantasy.

The more I see Obama speak the more I warm to Edwards. Obama says almost nothing but says it gracefully and sincerely, Edwards has much more substance but somehow I don't believe it when he says it.

Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. I couldn't even watch all of Obama's speech - I found it to be pure meaningless drivel. "Inspiring." "Great speaker."

And yet Edwards says the right things and comes off as disingenuous somehow.

who da fuck do you people expect to see up there, Albert Schweitzer or Desmond Tutu?

(xpost)Um because he is disingenuous maybe?

wow The National Review's The Corner has some LOL stuff today. I won't cut and paste but two entries got me, one said basically, "The biggest Repub. winner in Iowa last night is Rudy because he never planned to win Iowa anyway," and the second said, "Awww I don't want Hilary to lose the nomination because I will miss hating her."

wow The National Review's The Corner has some LOL stuff today

Oh that's for sure. Them, Hewitt, RedState -- lols a-plenty.

Then there's this guy:

http://vodkapundit.com/archives/009372.php

via gawker
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/01/Picture%2034.jpg

lolz @ fat guys in stripes

"Edwards is disingenuous" is the new "Spielberg is manipulative"

voted for the war = fuck him

anybody who thinks huckabee was the stupid option for Iowa goppers didn't watch the same debates I had to sit through. Who were they supposed to pick? Romney? FFS

getting mighty gabbnebby about edwards here morbz

ps why do we have this thread?

BECAUSE WE KNOW WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE

CUZ THE OTHER FUCKING THING IS 8000 POSTS LONG

CUZ WE MIGHT LOSE DARIA

DARIA '08

tombot OTM re Huckabee in the debates. He was easily the most affable and well-spoken - didn't come off like a robot or a giggly madman and made all his responses sound reasonable.

I'm just going to lock the other one.

fuck you people for not being able to get along and form any consensus on how to behave

democracy!!

LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK

FOUR MORE THREADS

rip hueg thread

Shakey Mo and I agree: That thread was an asshole.

okay, so reposting this here:

She could always needle him on policy issues, though, right? Not that they would be very productive. I certainly think Hillary's in a tight spot here -- I think her underhanded attacks at Obama's character, even though she made them through surrogates, backfired and made her look two-faced. She can't afford to repeat that in New Hampshire, but she needs to do something to stop his momentum.

-- elmo argonaut, Friday, January 4, 2008 7:35 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Not that I want her to, mind.

-- elmo argonaut, Friday, January 4, 2008 7:36 PM (4 minutes ago)

just paste that whole thread into this one

didn't come off like a robot or a giggly madman and made all his responses sound reasonable.

exactly, everybody else sounded like a lunatic, a joker (thompson) or mitt's insincere ron popeil shit

the press is waxing epic and rhapsodic on obama's win in iowa, i don't recall iowa results ever being cast in such a momentous tone

haha gff

press immediately playing an 'iowa picked the outsiders' meme, which doesn't really make sense under scrutiny

xp

Meanwhile, the wit and wisdom of Karl Rove:

On the Republican side, we talked about the core issue for Republican voters. It was not quite what I was expecting. To Karl Rove, the issue that will determine who gets the Republican nominee is "fidelity to core principles," or who is the most faithful conservative. He said it will make things a lot easier for the Democrats who have a "binary decision" to make — do they want Hillary or not. On the Republican side, our voters are going through a laundry list of issues to see who is the most consistently conservative guy on a host of issues.

trans: "oh shi-"

every 4 years, the "momentousness" of Iowa/NH increases bcz of the batshit blather of the cable news monster.

mitt's insincere ron popeil shit

Huckabee and Obama are the post-fear candidates.

the press is waxing epic and rhapsodic on obama's win in iowa
The turnout for Iowa Democrats was 239,000, which was a whole lot higher than expected and in past elections, and Edwards got the majority of "second choice" people.

Rove for http://www.logoblog.org/wp-images/campaign-logos/jim-gilmore-logo.jpg

lol @ apostrophe

Not really about the primaries but roffle:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2201/2160014390517954f318md7.jpg

no sex in the campaign room

Zogby Poll puts Clinton ahead of Obama in NH.

Poll taken before IA caucuses.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/zogby_hillary_and_mccain_slightly_ahead_in_nh_before_iowa_caucus_was_held.php

speculation on HRC's NH strategy: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1700129,00.html

call it the Denver Death March

noooo they steelin my retardo long thread

I was really hoping for this to break the 10K barrier.

2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING