2008 Primaries Thread

yeah, but the QUALITY of the air escaping from the bag matters.

the windiest bag full of the baggiest wind, yes, but certainly consequential no matter how you look at it

(The entire point of politics is to find the windbag who will pontificate on the issues you care about.)

thanks -- I'll be sure to remember it.

Whatever else she is, HRC is NOT a windbag. Neither is Obama. Romney is a wet bag. Giuliani is a bag of dicks.

Everyone you've listed is a total windbag, come on.

2008 Presidential Candidates: If you were a bag, what kind of bag would you be?

Sorry for being grouchy. This thread gets especially gaseous when it turns into a transcript of what CNN/FOX News have been no doubt discussing all day.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing that politicians are windbags! If they weren't, no points of view would ever get put across to anyone.

e.g. discussion on the Ted Kennedy thing and a question on how it will "play out".

what would the opposite of a windbag be? someone who didn't blow a lot of smoke up people's collective asses but got stuff done?

no the cnn/fox stuff is good! i don't get those channels over here! maybe you should tag it somehow, though

ah i see you just did

I'm not saying it's a bad thing that politicians are windbags! If they weren't, no points of view would ever get put across to anyone.

Not necessarily so. You can drum a point home in multiple settings, without having each individual speech run long and go on-and-on about your own importance.

Insofar as pols love the sound of their voices, Dan's right, they're windbags, and exceptions are rare. But Obama's speeches are too chiselled to qualify as windbaggery. Even when they soar, the sentences are short and declarative.

alfred i would bet than any person who doesn't feel the obama magic would describe him as a windbag

^^^this

(NOTE: I like Obama a lot but come on, dude is a total windbag)

alright. I'm gonna watch William Jennings Bryan speeches on YouTube.

That man is a dynamic speaker.

AND A WINDBAG

Now you've got it!

My Fair Alfred

WINDBAGS:

http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2004_winter_spring/images/webster-daniel.jpg

http://www.sonofthesouth.net/slavery/pictures/stephen-a-douglas.jpg

never realized douglas actually resembles a bag of wind

dude, look at their foreheads -- that's where they keep the wind!

The Demon Racist of Fleeeeeet Street.

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=62214&rendTypeId=4

http://www.historyplace.com/specials/calendar/docs-pix/jqadams.jpg

(I guess everyone in Congress in the mid 19th century was a windbag)

http://thegreatgeekmanual.com/images/links/april/darth-vader-hot-air-balloon.jpg

everyone in every congress ever was a windbag!

http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2007Images/cotpin-thumb.jpg

(I guess everyone in Congress in the mid 19th century was is a windbag)

'Cept me.

IN THE ACT OF WINDBAGGING

http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2004/07/24/senator_byrd/cover.jpg

screamingwindbagofhope.jpg

so we had heard from the Clinton campaign, after the initial mention of Rezko's name at the NV debate, that we had not heard the last of Rezko. now he's been pulled in on bond violation. perhaps this is a conspiratorial bent of my own thought, but what are the chances that the Clinton camp pressured or enticed that arrest to occur right now before super tuesday? i mean, a bond-jumping slumlord campiagn contributor -- what a millstone to hang around obama's neck! though who knows whether or not it will play.

like there's no one that sleazy in Clinton's pocket lolz

Man, Obama should pump the Mich Rich into this news cycle.

This kind of thing isn't good for anyone:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/NY_NOW_Betrayal.html

wtf

Psychological Gang Bang of Hillary is Proof We Need a Woman President

http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_011108.html

xpost

"Kucinich lovers"? Those woman haters. Worst press release ever.

Breaking News: Rudy Giuliani hints at dropping out

Giuliani_jvd3hwnc Rudy Giuliani appears to be pondering an end to his long pursuit of the Republican presidential nomination.

In a meeting in the back of his chartered plane en route to St. Petersburg, Fla., a short while ago, the onetime, longtime GOP front-runner told a small group of reporters, including The Times' Louise Roug: "The winner of Florida will win the nomination."

He then went on to predict he would win. And his spokeswoman, Maria Comella, said later he was speaking with confidence.

But that's an unusually categorical statement suggesting that only a total first-place upset by Giuliani, who trails both Mitt Romney and John McCain in all major polls for Florida's Republican primary tomorrow, will keep him in the competition, despite previous repeated vows to continue.

Giuliani's campaign, which led in national polls when it began and stayed there for many months, is showing signs of serious financial fatigue. This month his top staffers are foregoing their paychecks so the maximum amount of money can be invested to salvage his political fortunes in the Sunshine State, which was where Giuliani's late-state strategy was to kick into high gear.

So far, he's yet to finish first anywhere and ended up behind Rep. Ron Paul in Iowa and Nevada.

In his meeting with reporters today, Giuliani added that, no matter what happens Tuesday, he definitely would participate in the Republican debate co-sponsored by The Times on Wednesday at the Reagan Library.

--Andrew Malcolm

re: Rezko, it's Patrick Fitzgerald on the case - Rezko's trial date (late February, less than a month from now) was set by a judge last April. I strongly doubt any timing here is connected to Clinton campaign.

If Patrick Fitzgerald is overseeing the prosecution, you're probably right.

WTF? Does Romney think this type of attack is going to derail McCain? He needs to sharpen the focus on his message: McCain is not a true conservative, he doesn't understand the economy and has no plan for it, and he is soft on immigration. COME ON, ROMNEY!

That list almost makes McCain sound awesome.

I know. That's what GOP voters are going to think, too, if they see it.

Why did Romney stop at 10? There's got to be plenty more. (I am at this point more worried about the prospect of a Romney nomination than McCain, I know you all will think I'm crazy)

I may not be able to lol later, but anything the GOP is doing right now is making me lol far more than worry.

totally

Dave on Mitt - http://www.onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2008/01/mitt_1.html