ugh typos out the ass, there. take two:
"loved how every character on hostages had to have a secret - bet the brother owing a grand to a drug dealer's really gonna pay off in episode 4 if it airs."
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
the blacklist is highly recommend to people who want to watch a sassy tortoise annoy federal agents
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
hahah!
― Nhex, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
i kinda like blacklist. a nice replacement for my required 'spy cheese' viewing, since Burn Notice has finished
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
I need at least one show where things explode
cmon, person of interest! now starting s03.
― j., Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't get into that - jim caviezel has dead eyes, it creeps me out
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
that show gets the "what is burn notice?" trophy now that burn notice is on. All I've ever known about it is that two guys, one from lost, are...agents of some kind.
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
for three years, every ad has just been them...looking at you, perhaps gauging your degree of interest.
it's an 'outsiders intervene in the lives of people who need help' show.
with michael emerson as a dude who made a 24/7 surveillance computer for the government and then had second thoughts
it also has taraji henson and enrico colantoni and robert burke and sarah shahi and amy acker and an nypd corruption ring and a russian mob turf war
― j., Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
and a TIMELINE
― j., Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
ah that's where sarah shahi went to
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Sunday, 29 September 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link
she just showed up as an antagonist that turned into (i think) a regular, right about after her quirky lawyer show got cancelled
― j., Sunday, 29 September 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link
I really miss that pretty broad
― Nhex, Sunday, 29 September 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
of all the things i hated about 'the crazy ones' i think the worst was editing robin williams to shreds. they bring in someone who's known for his raw energy and they slice it to pieces. i don't get it.
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
Getting a better off ted vibe from krazy ones. Except it sucks
― erect, sporadic, notorious, genitals (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 September 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
first ep was like five ads rolled into one pretense of a show.
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Monday, 30 September 2013 05:07 (ten years ago) link
moms was good, are all chuck lorre shows zingfests like that
― j., Monday, 30 September 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link
yes
― balls, Monday, 30 September 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link
Dharma and Greg was slightly zingy.
I haven't watched any of the later ones.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 September 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link
big bang gets way more grief than it deserves but isn't anywhere near good enough to deserve defending from that grief
― balls, Monday, 30 September 2013 05:30 (ten years ago) link
ugh brooklyn 99 was really bad, didnt seem even vaguely 'promising' either. like p much just a really contorted way of making ppl appreciate new girl if they didnt already
blacklist... eh, just about got on the watchable trash list but i doubt for very long
michael j fox show was... weird? fast-paced is good but this was kinda machinegunning lines and characters without really knowing what it was doing, i'd say i was losing my footing but i'm not sure i ever had one to begin with. def not how i expected a walt jr and marie spinoff to play out
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
oh also re mjf show, i know character actors and all that but you can't just have bunk in your show... bunk is bunk, end of story
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
w/ brooklyn 99 i keep telling myself that the office took awhile and parks definitely took awhile but this feels different - there they were figuring out the characters and getting the tone just right and getting away from the shadow of another show (the office uk w/ the office, the office us w/ parks). this just feels like a bad sitcom so far, like they're aiming low and just trying to make a hit show and not a cult show that critics will like but will barely stay on the air.
― balls, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
trying to make a hit show and not a cult show that critics will like but will barely stay on the air.
I think this is correct
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link
yeah idk i often feel a little confused when i see ppl (seemingly quite frequently) say stuff like "oh but x got good around halfway through the second season". if it's not at least okay to begin with it's pretty much dead forever in my book
suburgatory is probably the one recent show i can think of where i genuinely wasn't certain if i liked it for ages
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link
well there's a middle ground between "dead forever" and "stick with it" - "go back when you hear it gets better." did that with parks & rec and the new girl myself.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
oh, 30 rock too.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
man apparently i need to avoid ever watching early community or 30 rock again cuz those are two shows i loved from day one that the consensus seems to be didn't actually get good until a little while into their runs
― balls, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
i enjoyed community from the get go (gets "even better" halfway through s1), but 30 rock season 1 (which i revisited recently) def has a simpsons season 1 vibe just in the relatively slack pace of jokes.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
30 rock season one was so great from maybe two episodes in.
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
even if you enjoy it, i have a hard time believing you can't detect the change in editing/joke density
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 02:22 (ten years ago) link
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yeah this was... the whole point? talking about the unlikelihood of full-on miracle lazarus jobs not shows that were very watchable to begin with (personally i never did like parks and rec though)
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 08:48 (ten years ago) link
30 rock seems kind of an odd one, i also rewatched some of season 1 recently and found it hard going but i def loved it at the time
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 08:52 (ten years ago) link
s1 started rough though
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 09:05 (ten years ago) link
iirc it didn't hit its straps until about halfway through that series
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 09:07 (ten years ago) link
Fringe was a rare show that was pretty dire in the beginning and then became amazing from around midway through season 2 (it was also a rare sci-fi/mythology show that actually had a relatively satisfying finale). Combination of the actors settling into their roles + writers finding their groove.
― Roz, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
haha figures that Fringe got good right after I completely gave up on it and refused to go back
― smang culture (DJP), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
lol I gave up after the third episode, and caught up with it later on. Ended up becoming one of my all-time favourite shows - who knew?
― Roz, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
I dropped Fringe when it went on holiday break in its first year. I've heard ever since that it got really good when it came back. tbh I didn't care about the premise enough to go back, but you never know. It's on netflix and I might get curious one day.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
Fringe definitely got better but it also often posed the argument that not every dramatic series can or should sustain a 60-minute episode length.
― Coke Opus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
fringe turned into a very different show than it started out being in the first two seasons. granted it got confusing as fuck a couple of seasons after that, but it was v enjoyable overall
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't make it past the first five or so episodes when it was on the air, but from all I've heard I may pick it up again someday to get to the good stuff
― Nhex, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i've got a pretty high bar though - i don't really WANT to get invested in new shows, so I'm quick to bail (almost gave up on Arrested Development around episode 2 cuz the obsequious narration bugged me). But because there are so many shows I get into later and then double-back on, I try to reserve initial judgment. I stop watching, but I don't pretend that assessment pertains to the same show a half-year later when everyone loves it.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
Community and Suburgatory might be the only sitcoms of late that really got me from the get-go
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
i feel like sitcoms particularly need time to figure out the balance. if there's at least good acting talent to begin with, writing can catch up quickly
― Nhex, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
yeah, and we're all too quick to judge after episode 1.
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
also, the first episode is usually written by one person and the subsequent ones are written months later by a group of writers.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link
good point!
― balls, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
the best sitcoms i can think of started roughly (except maybe fawlty towers), so it's only reasonable to expect it of any sitcom. everything needs time to find its feet, even if that time is a year and a half.
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link