Trophy Wife is really good!
― polyphonic, Saturday, 28 September 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
I watched the MJ show this afternoon. I liked it! And I loved Tracy Pollan playing the hot upstairs neighbor, that was super cute
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
did find this sweet gif set when looking for one of brandt's credit dance. sentimentality didn't get me through the episode but still, this earns an "awww."
http://michaeljlove-sx.tumblr.com/post/62428613629/deja-vu-on-the-26th-of-september-1985-michael
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
loved wendell pierce's bits, only character i flat out hated was the sister. man that's a tired archetype.
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah...i have love for Katie Finneran for 'Wonderfalls' but that character was kind of a bum note compared to the rest of the cast.
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
in any event, my ideal TV parents to have a show about would be Stanley Tucci and Patricia Clarkson in Easy A, and this is prob the closest we'll get so i'll take it.
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
only sitcom pilot i actually liked was mom - alison janney was great and there was some pretty great ensemble work in the last half (including badger from breaking bad!). strong, refreshing subject matter (reminds you chuck lorre worked on roseanne). though I doubt I'll go out of my way to watch it, i hope it lasts. while i don't hope they last I can see The Crazy Ones and The Goldbergs surviving (esp if they tone down the wonder years bullshit - that little perv is no kevin arnold) as I doubt america will care as much as about its historical laziness (pretty sure it's just set in "the '80s" rather than a specific year) as I did.
Only drama that's come out I'm remotely rooting for Sleepy Hollow.
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
anna faris is so likable that i'll probably continue to watch mom but i thought the writing was generally dire (if not quite as bad as 2 broke girls)
― Mordy , Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
patton oswalt was straight up doing daniel stern in the narration too, presumably while looking at his check
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
xpost re goldbergs, obv
i was trying to figure out what year it could possibly be in the goldbergs - has to be at least '87 if the older brother shouts out "flavor flav," but stopped when i realized they clearly hadn't put in even that much work
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
i didn't watch the goldbergs pilot yet but i'm gonna guess it has got nothing on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goldbergs_(broadcast_series)
― Mordy , Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
i haven't watched Mom yet, should check that out. besides Fox, i think Brooklyn Nine-Nine at least has potential -- imperfect right now but i feel like as long as there's a strong cast to start with, the writing and everything else can come into focus with time.
i watched the Hostage and Lucky 7 pilots but man speaking of 'low stakes,' i don't necessarily think that every network show now has to play keep up with cable like The Following or Hannibal and be as graphic and edgy as it can get away with, but so many network dramas just feel incredibly tame and defanged now.
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
oh right, forgot about nine-nine! i like the cast but they need to get over this "samberg refuses to grow up for some not particularly clear reason" bit NOW.
and yeah, couldn't finish lucky 7 or hostages (rating-wise, few started them). loved how every character on the other one had to have a secret - bet the brother owning a grand to a drug dealer's really gonna pay off in episode 4 if it airs.
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
andre braugher and alison janney are the mvps of the new shows imo, no shock there
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
ugh typos out the ass, there. take two:
"loved how every character on hostages had to have a secret - bet the brother owing a grand to a drug dealer's really gonna pay off in episode 4 if it airs."
the blacklist is highly recommend to people who want to watch a sassy tortoise annoy federal agents
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
hahah!
― Nhex, Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
i kinda like blacklist. a nice replacement for my required 'spy cheese' viewing, since Burn Notice has finished
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
I need at least one show where things explode
cmon, person of interest! now starting s03.
― j., Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't get into that - jim caviezel has dead eyes, it creeps me out
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
that show gets the "what is burn notice?" trophy now that burn notice is on. All I've ever known about it is that two guys, one from lost, are...agents of some kind.
― da croupier, Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
for three years, every ad has just been them...looking at you, perhaps gauging your degree of interest.
it's an 'outsiders intervene in the lives of people who need help' show.
with michael emerson as a dude who made a 24/7 surveillance computer for the government and then had second thoughts
it also has taraji henson and enrico colantoni and robert burke and sarah shahi and amy acker and an nypd corruption ring and a russian mob turf war
― j., Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
and a TIMELINE
― j., Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
ah that's where sarah shahi went to
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Sunday, 29 September 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link
she just showed up as an antagonist that turned into (i think) a regular, right about after her quirky lawyer show got cancelled
― j., Sunday, 29 September 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link
I really miss that pretty broad
― Nhex, Sunday, 29 September 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
of all the things i hated about 'the crazy ones' i think the worst was editing robin williams to shreds. they bring in someone who's known for his raw energy and they slice it to pieces. i don't get it.
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 29 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
Getting a better off ted vibe from krazy ones. Except it sucks
― erect, sporadic, notorious, genitals (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 September 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
first ep was like five ads rolled into one pretense of a show.
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Monday, 30 September 2013 05:07 (ten years ago) link
moms was good, are all chuck lorre shows zingfests like that
― j., Monday, 30 September 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link
yes
― balls, Monday, 30 September 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link
Dharma and Greg was slightly zingy.
I haven't watched any of the later ones.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 September 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link
big bang gets way more grief than it deserves but isn't anywhere near good enough to deserve defending from that grief
― balls, Monday, 30 September 2013 05:30 (ten years ago) link
ugh brooklyn 99 was really bad, didnt seem even vaguely 'promising' either. like p much just a really contorted way of making ppl appreciate new girl if they didnt already
blacklist... eh, just about got on the watchable trash list but i doubt for very long
michael j fox show was... weird? fast-paced is good but this was kinda machinegunning lines and characters without really knowing what it was doing, i'd say i was losing my footing but i'm not sure i ever had one to begin with. def not how i expected a walt jr and marie spinoff to play out
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
oh also re mjf show, i know character actors and all that but you can't just have bunk in your show... bunk is bunk, end of story
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
w/ brooklyn 99 i keep telling myself that the office took awhile and parks definitely took awhile but this feels different - there they were figuring out the characters and getting the tone just right and getting away from the shadow of another show (the office uk w/ the office, the office us w/ parks). this just feels like a bad sitcom so far, like they're aiming low and just trying to make a hit show and not a cult show that critics will like but will barely stay on the air.
― balls, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
trying to make a hit show and not a cult show that critics will like but will barely stay on the air.
I think this is correct
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link
yeah idk i often feel a little confused when i see ppl (seemingly quite frequently) say stuff like "oh but x got good around halfway through the second season". if it's not at least okay to begin with it's pretty much dead forever in my book
suburgatory is probably the one recent show i can think of where i genuinely wasn't certain if i liked it for ages
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link
well there's a middle ground between "dead forever" and "stick with it" - "go back when you hear it gets better." did that with parks & rec and the new girl myself.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
oh, 30 rock too.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
man apparently i need to avoid ever watching early community or 30 rock again cuz those are two shows i loved from day one that the consensus seems to be didn't actually get good until a little while into their runs
― balls, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
i enjoyed community from the get go (gets "even better" halfway through s1), but 30 rock season 1 (which i revisited recently) def has a simpsons season 1 vibe just in the relatively slack pace of jokes.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
30 rock season one was so great from maybe two episodes in.
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
even if you enjoy it, i have a hard time believing you can't detect the change in editing/joke density
― da croupier, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 02:22 (ten years ago) link
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yeah this was... the whole point? talking about the unlikelihood of full-on miracle lazarus jobs not shows that were very watchable to begin with (personally i never did like parks and rec though)
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 08:48 (ten years ago) link
30 rock seems kind of an odd one, i also rewatched some of season 1 recently and found it hard going but i def loved it at the time
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 08:52 (ten years ago) link
s1 started rough though
― obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 09:05 (ten years ago) link