2008 Primaries Thread

look at bush jr for instance, he was just supposed to be a kind of benign nitwit

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Why Ted Kennedy's Endorsement Matters

and clinton was supposed to be a progressive, not a center-right micromanager

(Or, I should say, why T. Kennedy's endorsement should matter).

yeah yglesias otm

It would matter more if it were someone else besides Ted Kennedy.

Sorry. None of his speeches have ever shaken my belief that he's a windbag.

Duh, he's a politician; OF COURSE he's a windbag!

Don Imus got into an animated discussion this morning about former President Bill Clinton's comparison of Obama's South Carolina primary victory over Senator Clinton to Jesse Jackson. ''If I had made that comparison to Jesse Jackson,'' I have a feeling that I'd be talking to Al Sharpton again,'' Imus told Michael Graham of Boston's WTKK.

(The entire point of politics is to find the windbag who will pontificate on the issues you care about.)

yeah, but the QUALITY of the air escaping from the bag matters.

the windiest bag full of the baggiest wind, yes, but certainly consequential no matter how you look at it

(The entire point of politics is to find the windbag who will pontificate on the issues you care about.)

thanks -- I'll be sure to remember it.

Whatever else she is, HRC is NOT a windbag. Neither is Obama. Romney is a wet bag. Giuliani is a bag of dicks.

Everyone you've listed is a total windbag, come on.

2008 Presidential Candidates: If you were a bag, what kind of bag would you be?

Sorry for being grouchy. This thread gets especially gaseous when it turns into a transcript of what CNN/FOX News have been no doubt discussing all day.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing that politicians are windbags! If they weren't, no points of view would ever get put across to anyone.

e.g. discussion on the Ted Kennedy thing and a question on how it will "play out".

what would the opposite of a windbag be? someone who didn't blow a lot of smoke up people's collective asses but got stuff done?

no the cnn/fox stuff is good! i don't get those channels over here! maybe you should tag it somehow, though

ah i see you just did

I'm not saying it's a bad thing that politicians are windbags! If they weren't, no points of view would ever get put across to anyone.

Not necessarily so. You can drum a point home in multiple settings, without having each individual speech run long and go on-and-on about your own importance.

Insofar as pols love the sound of their voices, Dan's right, they're windbags, and exceptions are rare. But Obama's speeches are too chiselled to qualify as windbaggery. Even when they soar, the sentences are short and declarative.

alfred i would bet than any person who doesn't feel the obama magic would describe him as a windbag

^^^this

(NOTE: I like Obama a lot but come on, dude is a total windbag)

alright. I'm gonna watch William Jennings Bryan speeches on YouTube.

That man is a dynamic speaker.

AND A WINDBAG

Now you've got it!

My Fair Alfred

WINDBAGS:

http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2004_winter_spring/images/webster-daniel.jpg

http://www.sonofthesouth.net/slavery/pictures/stephen-a-douglas.jpg

never realized douglas actually resembles a bag of wind

dude, look at their foreheads -- that's where they keep the wind!

The Demon Racist of Fleeeeeet Street.

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=62214&rendTypeId=4

http://www.historyplace.com/specials/calendar/docs-pix/jqadams.jpg

(I guess everyone in Congress in the mid 19th century was a windbag)

http://thegreatgeekmanual.com/images/links/april/darth-vader-hot-air-balloon.jpg

everyone in every congress ever was a windbag!

http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2007Images/cotpin-thumb.jpg

(I guess everyone in Congress in the mid 19th century was is a windbag)

'Cept me.

IN THE ACT OF WINDBAGGING

http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2004/07/24/senator_byrd/cover.jpg

screamingwindbagofhope.jpg

so we had heard from the Clinton campaign, after the initial mention of Rezko's name at the NV debate, that we had not heard the last of Rezko. now he's been pulled in on bond violation. perhaps this is a conspiratorial bent of my own thought, but what are the chances that the Clinton camp pressured or enticed that arrest to occur right now before super tuesday? i mean, a bond-jumping slumlord campiagn contributor -- what a millstone to hang around obama's neck! though who knows whether or not it will play.

like there's no one that sleazy in Clinton's pocket lolz

Man, Obama should pump the Mich Rich into this news cycle.

This kind of thing isn't good for anyone:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/NY_NOW_Betrayal.html

wtf

Psychological Gang Bang of Hillary is Proof We Need a Woman President

http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_011108.html

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"Kucinich lovers"? Those woman haters. Worst press release ever.