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― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 24 August 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
Nixon: "I am not suggesting Johnson is anything other than a patriot..."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
The U.S. National Security Agency has bugged the United Nations' New York headquarters, Germany's Der Spiegel weekly said on Sunday in a report on U.S. spying that could further strain relations between Washington and its allies. 'The data traffic gives us internal video teleconferences of the United Nations (yay!)', Der Spiegel quoted one document as saying, adding that within three weeks the number of decoded communications rose to 458 from 12.
― Z S, Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
naive question: who "orders" this kind of thing at NSA? "Hack into the UN and spy on other countries!" - who tells someone to do that? is it some evil guy in shades in the upper echelons at the NSA who is somehow never forced to disclose this kind of thing except in confidential briefings to members of the senate committee on the path to dystopia or something?
― Z S, Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
not the NSA per se, but this was a 2010 WikiLeaks revelation : http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/28/clinton-ordered-diplomats-spy-un/
― StanM, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
The politics of bugging the UN (and potential fallout from discovery of this) would make this a very high level decision. My guess would be that the idea could have originated at almost any level, but the decision to go ahead was approved by the national security council and particularly with the approval of whoever was president at the time.
― Aimless, Sunday, 25 August 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/08/obama-surveillance-and-the-legacy-of-the-march-on-washington.html
haven't been the biggest fan of cobb at the NYer but this was good
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 August 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
Was waiting for someone to address that.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 August 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
That figures whose dissent consisted of a demand that the United States abide by its own Constitution could be vacuumed into a system meant to trace foreign threats raises the question of what other democratic demand, what present moral inconvenience, is being similarly thwarted.
it's a poignant irony but that's a weak article imo, it starts by ironically framing obama's own words to distance him from the civil rights movement, then lands on the above sudden and unsupported quote for its conclusion. there are many, MANY people with closer ties to the civil rights movement (if that's our standard) who are opposing these invasions than a solitary dude atop the pyramid.
― awake the snorting citizens (discreet), Monday, 26 August 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
mural altered
http://i.imgur.com/DVGxjhy.jpg
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 29 August 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link
Barack Obama is, as he pointed out in Selma, an heir to the civil-rights movement. What he decides to do with that legacy is another matter
oh, he's decided.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 August 2013 05:47 (ten years ago) link
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nsa-spied-on-al-jazeera-communications-snowden-document-a-919681.html
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:34 (ten years ago) link
I watched Sneakers last night (don't ask) and it was kind of a hoot. Love the parts discussing how the NSA doesn't have the authority to spy domestically. Oh the 90s
― Z S, Monday, 2 September 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/black-budget-summary-details-us-spy-networks-successes-failures-and-objectives/2013/08/29/7e57bb78-10ab-11e3-8cdd-bcdc09410972_story.html
So Snowden gave Gellman of the W. Post the Spy agencies budgets
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 September 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
sneakers is great. Lawrence Lasker is like one of the only h-wood guys capable of not being excruciatingly dumb about computers onscreen. that 'can you guarantee my safety' bit is still loads of fun, along with a few other moments.
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Monday, 2 September 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
I always have a hard time remembering which one is Sneakers and which one is Hackers.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 2 September 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
When spies are denied authority to eavesdrop, then only unauthorized eavesdroppers will spy on us.
― Aimless, Monday, 2 September 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
the DEA: underrated!
AT&T, in return for payment by the government, has employees sit with government drug units and sift through company (not government) stored data reaching as far back as 1987....
Unlike controversial NSA programs like PRISM, Hemisphere does not see the DEA itself hoarding communications data; AT&T stores the data. Nonetheless, with only an administrative subpoena (not a warrant) drug agents can hone in on an individual’s communications data within an hour. As such Hempisphere is yet another example of how government agencies and corporations work in tandem to create and uphold the surveillance dragnets from which almost no communications within or going out of the U.S. escape....
“I’d speculate that one reason for the secrecy of the program is that it would be very hard to justify it to the public or the courts,” said the ACLU’s Jamil Jaffer.
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/03/dea_can_access_all_att_records/
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
Small lol at 'hempisphere'
― you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Some good news today
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/09/hundreds-pages-nsa-spying-documents-be-released-result-eff-lawsuit
― c21m50nh3x460n, Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
As long as they haven't cracked rot13 I'm still nfsr.
― StanM, Friday, 6 September 2013 04:19 (ten years ago) link
fnsr! Duh. :-(
― StanM, Friday, 6 September 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link
Dubious headline, there. The article makes clear that the NSA hasn't broken RSA or anything.
― i too went to college (silby), Friday, 6 September 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link
Independent security experts have long suspected that the NSA has been introducing weaknesses into security standards, a fact confirmed for the first time by another secret document. It shows the agency worked covertly to get its own version of a draft security standard issued by the US National Institute of Standards and Technology approved for worldwide use in 2006.
SSH 2.0?
― wombspace (abanana), Friday, 6 September 2013 09:08 (ten years ago) link
The NSA has worked closely with its British counterpart, the GCHQ, in the effort to break or get around the codes that protect the data that billions of people send across the Internet each day — including e-mails, bank transactions, Web searches, phone calls and chats, the newspapers reported on their Web sites Thursday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-has-made-strides-in-thwarting-encryption-used-to-protect-internet-communication/2013/09/05/0ec08efc-1669-11e3-a2ec-b47e45e6f8ef_story.html
― curmudgeon, Friday, 6 September 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
Phil Zimmermann is founder of Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) encryption and battled the U.S. government in the 1990s over his effort to establish strong Internet encryption for consumers. He said he is confident that the NSA has not cracked PGP encryption, which is now owned by Symantec. “The fact that they use PGP for government users indicates that they haven’t broken it,” he said. “Otherwise they’d have stopped using it.”
― curmudgeon, Friday, 6 September 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
Still hoping for some opinions on this thread: VPN providers S/D(obv. VPN isn't NSA-proof, but am interested in slowing things down at least)― Elvis Telecom, Friday, August 23, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
(obv. VPN isn't NSA-proof, but am interested in slowing things down at least)
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, August 23, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I guess it's still in the works and they'll be publishing the source code soon.
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 6 September 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
http://www.popehat.com/2013/09/06/nsa-codebreaking-i-am-the-other/
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 6 September 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
The is the one thing i recall related to potential NSA backdoors in encryption standards: http://www.schneier.com/essay-198.html
I'm sure there's other stuff too that we don't even know about.
this article is vaguely relevant to the thread too: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/barrett-brown-faces-105-years-in-jail-20130905?print=true
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Friday, 6 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
― Z S, Monday, September 2, 2013 8:42 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
watched an episode of bored to death made in 2008 or 2009 that was all about surveillance and how stuff on email could never been found etc. and it was really disorienting.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 7 September 2013 05:44 (ten years ago) link
excellent article on what likely is and isn't secure: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-how-to-remain-secure-surveillance
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Saturday, 7 September 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
The crazy thing is that this program's budget is about 800 million, while the PRISM budget was a mere 40 million.
― what_have_you, Saturday, 7 September 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Bruce Schneier is the security expert and his recommendations are likely right on. I'm personally not interested in Tor, since I worry it'll leak stuff to people even less scrupulous than the NSA, but I could revisit that issue. I wish PGP were actually easy to use so I could start rejecting unencrypted email, but that's not gonna work out.
― i too went to college (silby), Saturday, 7 September 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
everybody should revert back to one-time pads for the next few months
― idembanana (abanana), Saturday, 7 September 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
We need to start encrypting ILX.
― going (to) hell for pleather (seandalai), Saturday, 7 September 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link
Who knows who can read what we write here!!!
I'm gonna use the freedom of information act to get all the 77 info I can. Finally I will know what you monsters are up to back there!
― Øystein, Saturday, 7 September 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link
Request Access to 77 Borad
― 2 ℜ 4 u (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 7 September 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
another good article on the crypto topic: http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1517
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
p=1517, okay. Then what?
― StanM, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
into BlackBerrys
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies-on-smartphones-including-the-blackberry-a-921161.html
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
The National Security Agency routinely shares raw intelligence data with Israel without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens, a top-secret document provided to the Guardian by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals.
Details of the intelligence-sharing agreement are laid out in a memorandum of understanding between the NSA and its Israeli counterpart that shows the US government handed over intercepted communications likely to contain phone calls and emails of American citizens. The agreement places no legally binding limits on the use of the data by the Israelis.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link
whoa
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
i love how this neverending series of revelations is prompting swift and robust action on the part of legislators
...they're pretty much just going to avoid talking about it and hope it goes away, right? what's sad is that that's probably a pretty good strategy for them, it'll probably work.
― Z S, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
The National Security Agency for almost three years searched a massive database of Americans’ phone call records attempting to identify potential terrorists in violation of court-approved privacy rules, and the problem went unfixed because no one at the agency had a full technical understanding of how its system worked, according to new documents and senior government officials.
Moreover, it was Justice Department officials who discovered the problem and reported it to the court that oversees surveillance programs, the documents show, undermining assertions by the NSA that self-reporting is part of its culture.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/declassified-court-documents-highlight-nsa-violations/2013/09/10/60b5822c-1a4b-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/09/fisa-judge-reggie-walton-skeptical-nsa-phone-record
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
NSA chief may be an insane Trekkie!
"When he was running the Army's Intelligence and Security Command, Alexander brought many of his future allies down to Fort Belvoir for a tour of his base of operations, a facility known as the Information Dominance Center. It had been designed by a Hollywood set designer to mimic the bridge of the starship Enterprise from Star Trek, complete with chrome panels, computer stations, a huge TV monitor on the forward wall, and doors that made a 'whoosh' sound when they slid open and closed. Lawmakers and other important officials took turns sitting in a leather 'captain's chair' in the center of the room and watched as Alexander, a lover of science-fiction movies, showed off his data tools on the big screen.
'Everybody wanted to sit in the chair at least once to pretend he was Jean-Luc Picard,' says a retired officer in charge of VIP visits."
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/09/nsa-director-modeled-war-room-after-star-treks-enterprise.html
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/15/nsa-mind-keith-alexander-star-trek
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 September 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
Wow.
In more mundane news:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/09/13/the-fisa-court-will-release-more-opinions-because-of-snowden/
― curmudgeon, Monday, 16 September 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
How airline reservations are used to target illegal searches
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 20 September 2013 06:40 (ten years ago) link
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/09/27/the-other-questions-senator-ron-wyden-wants-answered-on-nsa-surveillance/
Dianne Feinstein had other ideas though
― curmudgeon, Friday, 27 September 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link