Carole King's "Tapestry"

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There is at least one old vinyl copy of it in every Jewish home in Northwest London.


I think it's crap.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 27 March 2004 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)

amusing thread - I can't imagine feeling so strongly either way about Tapestry. I like it but don't love it and some of the tunes are definitely overplayed but it's one of those albums where the songs, performances and production just clicked - maybe it's possible to enjoy it as a musical gestalt thing.

I do have to admit my own cringeworthy experience of a Carole King live show video I saw once, which cut to her Big Chill audience mouthing the words along to "You Got A Friend", clinging like shellshocked life-victims to a guru's every platitude. epitome of singersongwriter blahness! I thought - ha, how radical was I ? (this is the enemy?)

Carole King is on my mind though, cos "Snow Queen", in both the Roger Nichols & the Small Circle Of Friends and Carole King & The City versions, is one of my new favourite songs.

interesting parallel with Judy Henske too - both of them left their husbands for new bandmates.

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 27 March 2004 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Carole King started life as a wannabe singer and stalled out in obscurity. She then became a pop songwriter in the Brill Building and learned her craft very well. She wrote "Locomotion" for Little Eva, among many other hits. Most of the songs on Tapestry that are associated with other singers, she wrote for them.

After a decade of launching other people's hits, she got the itch to sing again. Bad choice. Some good songs, though.

Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 27 March 2004 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Tapestry is on the bad side of mediocrity. Best thing she ever done = "It Might As Well Rain Until September"

Johnney B (Johnney B), Saturday, 27 March 2004 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)

"There is at least one old vinyl copy of it in every Jewish home in Northwest London."

you say this like it's a bad thing

it's a good album, really good

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 27 March 2004 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

it suprises me that Tom started this thread off, because in a way Tapestry reminds me almost exactly of albums like Dare or Cupid & Psyche, etc (biggest exception being the cover versions)
so, 70's vs 80's then?

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 27 March 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

you say this like it's a bad thing

not neccesarily. But it's sheer ubiquity is pretty mind-boggling. I prefer The Carpenters, myself.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 27 March 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not as unavoidable as, the beatles, say

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 27 March 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

personally, i think that if you have to waste time by talking about carol king and her tapestry album(only those who deny her incredible writing talent),must be insanely jealous!! that album created some great hits. why do you think so many others have rerecored them....many of which went on to become total classics. now, i don't think she has the best voice inthe history of music making, but let's be honest here, people. she certainly has more talent than what is on the market nowadays....

Marissa, Sunday, 28 March 2004 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I've heard her live a number of times in a very small venue and met her a couple of times. She's a really nice person and I like the muzak too.

Skottie, Sunday, 28 March 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

YO CAROLE I LOVE YOU AND YOR MUSIC YOU ARE SO FINE DON LISTEN TO THE HATAS THEY JUST WANT YOUR RIDE AND YO HOS KEEP BEING TRU TO YOURSELF LOVE YOU DOG

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 28 March 2004 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

*AMAZING*

my mom likes this record a lot. i stole a copy of it since she hd two. i never listen to it. it's just there. i listened to it a few times when i first found it. then like... no. never.

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 29 March 2004 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

funny, i've been aware of its existence all my life and i knew a lot of the songs simply by virtue of being alive in america, but -- despite my inclination to like singer/songwriter types of that era (randy newman, harry nilsson, steely dan, for example) -- i never sat down and actually listened to it until a couple of months ago. at which point i realized -- holy shit is it a great album. short, sweet, tuneful songs, nice nasal voice, and that beautifully dry '70s piano-and-drums sound that i can't get enough of these days.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 29 March 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

When my wife and I moved in together and found a place to keep our records, we went through each other's collections and Tapestry was one of only about three we had in common out of hundreds of selections. Happy to say we're still together and Tapestry is one of our all-time favorites.

Ned, if you're still on this thread: For chronological reference, Maggie May and It's Too Late were huge AM hits at the same time in the spring of 1971.

jim wentworth (wench), Monday, 29 March 2004 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, Ned is everywhere!

Hunter (Hunter), Monday, 29 March 2004 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, what a silly thing for me to say.

jim wentworth (wench), Monday, 29 March 2004 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I was born the week "It's Too Late"/"I Feel The Earth Move" went #1 on the Billboard charts.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 29 March 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
wait am I to understand that a person named Marissa came into the thread and nobody even blinked? Jesus, people, get a cup of coffee or something

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

i'm not sure how anyone could call this rubbish?

Surmounter, Sunday, 19 October 2008 00:25 (seventeen years ago)

short, sweet, tuneful songs, nice nasal voice, and that beautifully dry '70s piano-and-drums sound that i can't get enough of these days.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:29 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Surmounter, Sunday, 19 October 2008 00:30 (seventeen years ago)

"i'm not sure how anyone could call this rubbish?"

At least sometimes, terminal rockists feel an insatiable need to flash their credentials.

Fred Nerk, Sunday, 19 October 2008 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

Having never encountered it (to my knowledge), nothing has died since of course it never lived. The quandaries of existence set free!

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REALLY?

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 19 October 2008 02:42 (seventeen years ago)

Other hypothetical Ned posts:

Having never encountered it (to my knowledge), no one has strummed my pain with his finger, so I have never been filled up by anyone's words.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, September 20, 2002 9:26 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Having never encountered it (to my knowledge), I am proud of not being vain, so yes, I do think that this song is not about me. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, September 20, 2002 9:28 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I have never encountered it (to my knowledge), but I can certainly empathize with the notion of paradise being paved and turned into a parking lot.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, September 20, 2002 9:30 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 19 October 2008 02:47 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry. Ned knows his shit, but I can't get over anyone my age not having a passing knowledge about Tapestry.

Sunny would get on to me for being a music snob right now, but fuck.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 19 October 2008 03:04 (seventeen years ago)

my boyfriend started playing it in the house and i was like who is this?

Surmounter, Sunday, 19 October 2008 03:13 (seventeen years ago)

and then he told me. it was carole king.

Surmounter, Sunday, 19 October 2008 03:13 (seventeen years ago)

I went through a huge Tapestry phase last semester. I went into a record store hoping/expecting to find it used, and I did, for like 5 dollars, and then it defined the next month of my life. J'adore.

Steve (Not Stevie) (Stevie D), Sunday, 19 October 2008 03:59 (seventeen years ago)

i saw carole king in a supermarket a few years back. (no, she wasn't playing the dairy aisle). she looked good for a sixty something. late goffin/king tunes that showed up on notorious byrd brothers & head are like the pinnacles of psych pop imo. so for that she will always be classic. tapestry is alright, i can see how it got played out back in the day but that shouldn't count now.

velko, Sunday, 19 October 2008 04:05 (seventeen years ago)

Carole King?!?! Tapestry?!?!? O come on peeps. Carole King was a great songwriter among the ranks of Paul anka, JT and Carly simon. She was an icon in her day and everyone knew and could sing along with her lyrics no matter if it was your parents playing it or you were a teen or adult listening to it voluntarily at the time. I cannot believe that any one of you; especially you Ned, who is so savvy and knowledgeable in musicology, claim you have no remembered knowledge of her, Tapestry or her other stuff. Like manilow and anka, she has a huge catalog of songs although she herself may not have recorded them commercially herself. She wrote scads of songs that either she herself recorded or were recorded by others of her contemporary musicians. In fact, Tapestry was on the top of the Billboard charts for over 6 years in the mid '70s and won at least 4 Grammy's and was again up for album of the year in '82 against MJ's "Thriller" to which it finally lost and fell from the charts AFTER SIX YEARS. King, along with others like Neil Sedaka, James Taylor, and so many others were legendary fellows of the '70s songwriter genre. How can anyone be ignorant of this fact whether or not you're a fan? The album "Tapestry" was re-recorded in the early '90s covered by artists like the Bee Gees, Amy Grant, Celene Dion, Rod Stewart and Faith Hill to mention a few. If there wasn't some significant value to it, then I question why anyone would bother to re-record and release the same album. But this is just me, and just sayin.

Wiggy Woo, Sunday, 19 October 2008 05:54 (seventeen years ago)

I even did this one time:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6256/tarexjpgdg8.jpg

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 19 October 2008 06:02 (seventeen years ago)

watched tv with a cat?

the valves of houston (gbx), Sunday, 19 October 2008 06:03 (seventeen years ago)

</slocki>

jaymc, Sunday, 19 October 2008 06:12 (seventeen years ago)

carole is laughing at us all right to the bank. She has a steady income from music rights/royalties and doesn't have to do a thing she doesn't want to do. All this at only 66 years old. I don't know about the rest of you, but it sounds pretty effing awesome to me. My life should be so easy! <sigh> maybe in my next life. Ill be taller then too more than my current 5' 4".

Wiggy Woo, Sunday, 19 October 2008 07:00 (seventeen years ago)

i remember reading this thread the day it went up, it was not long after i began reading ilx and a while before i posted, and saying to myself, "who are these jokers".

estela, Sunday, 19 October 2008 09:25 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, ignorance is never a good starting point

velko, Sunday, 19 October 2008 09:29 (seventeen years ago)

12 Carole King Songs Every Gay Man Should Know

1. I Feel The Earth Move
2. So Far Away
3. It's Too Late
4. Home Again
5. Beautiful
6. Way Over Yonder
7. You've Got A Friend
8. Where You Lead
9. Will You Love Me Tomorrow?
10. Smackwater Jack
11. Tapestry
12. (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman

crusty but benign (kenan), Sunday, 19 October 2008 22:07 (seventeen years ago)

this album is great.

caek, Sunday, 19 October 2008 22:09 (seventeen years ago)

new deluxe version about to drop, with live voice/piano demos of eleven of the twelve songs...

love this album muchly.

graft Veronica's limbless torso to the 'paalmino' pony called Juno (stevie), Sunday, 19 October 2008 22:20 (seventeen years ago)

Aw yeah. People be goin' crazy an' shit when that Carole King drops. Sheeeeit.

crusty but benign (kenan), Sunday, 19 October 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)

the first post is perplexing, carole king is obv great.

lex pretend, Sunday, 19 October 2008 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

Carole talked to Obama supporters in my town today. I reported on it. I asked her a question about the difference between campaigning in 2004 and in 2008. Then I had her sign my copy of Tapestry because i'm a music reporter, not a news reporter.

Tape Store, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

you are the coolest

Surmounter, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:33 (seventeen years ago)

Well Tape....share for pity's sake. Waddid you ask specifically and waddid she say specifically. She's a Dem, I used to rep her and her kid Louise Goffin who was involved and had kids with a Oscar winner, Steve Gaghan, but that's another story.

Do tell....

Wiggy Woo, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:40 (seventeen years ago)

You lucked out, TS. The only celebrity I saw campaign there in '92 was Fonzie standing on a tree stump in Peace Park.

(And Al Gore too, on the quad.)

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 04:21 (seventeen years ago)

she sang You've Got a Friend with the crowd

Surmounter, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 04:35 (seventeen years ago)

mccain was here yesterday

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 04:37 (seventeen years ago)

he ate ribs or some shit and then left

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 04:37 (seventeen years ago)

She came to my hometown four years ago, campaigning for John Kerry in the Iowa Caucus. At a meet-n-greet prior to her talk & brief performance, people were getting records autographed, invariably "Tapestry". I was standing in line with a copy of "Writer", my personal favorite, and when she saw me like five people away, she stopped in mid-sentence, looked at the record and said, "Duuude!" Then she was very cool about taking a break to talk songs with me & my daughter for a couple of minutes.

Anyway, Tapestry classic, Carole King classy.

groundunderweather (briania), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 06:43 (seventeen years ago)

Fuck the (mostly British) haters, I had a cassette version of Tapestry and played it in my car all through late high school. She sings in the perfect register for me to squack along since I have one of those dusty alto voices, and "Smackwater Jack" is my karaoke stand-by.

Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

"Home Again" makes me cry every time, like clockwork, and "Where You Lead" firmed my resolve to someday throw my lot in with the man of my heart and fit my dreams to his. Which hasn't quite worked out and chances are I'd stab him with a grapefruit spoon in that scenario but hey, I was 17.

Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

I wish the show were two years earlier, the actual year of Tapestry

There probably would have been a lot less people there.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:46 (three years ago)

Looks great but trailer has an SNL type feeling

calstars, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:53 (three years ago)

surely this thread should be moved to ILM ?

i have a 2cd reissue, and dont think i have ever listened to it.
so, cos of this revival i suspect it's time to dig it out

checks discogs ..
turns out i have a bit of a rare reissue

https://www.discogs.com/release/2307068-Carole-King-Tapestry

mark e, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 21:04 (three years ago)

Do they still have big free shows in Central Park? I know they have smaller-stage things throughout the summer, but are those 100K+ events a thing of the past?

henry s, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 21:06 (three years ago)

dont think i have ever listened to it. it's time to dig it out

I'm genuinely interested in reading the first take of anyone who's not heard this album before. If that's you, plz let us know what you thought of it.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 21:53 (three years ago)

There probably would have been a lot less people there.

For sure--you can't really have both, the moment and the massive crowd. The BBC show above would almost certainly be better performance-wise, I'm sure (still haven't gotten around to watching it).

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 22:04 (three years ago)


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