omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread

But he doesn't seem to care too much about political capital with the US either

putin is just having fun out there, playing like a young kid

goole otm

he should send snowden back wearing the super bowl ring

he should make Snowden arm wrestle for it first

he should send snowden back wearing the super bowl ring

― iatee, Monday, July 1, 2013 3:35 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god i hope this happens

In just four days, J. Shot—in association with Fallout Media and Immortal Peach (which is a great name for anything)—put together a five-minute film depicting Edward Snowden's first days in Hong Kong, culminating in his unveiling in his interview with The Guardian. The film, called Verax, is in its entirety below

http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/the-edward-snowden-movie-already-exists-20130701

needs more guys staring up into a camera howling "snoooowwwdDDEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!"
also batman

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/edward-snowden-applies-for-asylum-in-russia-news-reports-say/2013/07/01/cc3daf20-e26e-11e2-aef3-339619eab080_story.html

idealist hacker steals secrets about the panopticon, flees to hong kong, runs into arms of "anti-secrets" organization known to ally itself with leakers, issues statement through organization

can we please stop living in a fucking william gibson novel

Can't. It's been 30 years since Neuromancer so most of the people that live and work in the Marketing/Intelligence/Surveillance state are already living a post-reality Gibson world anyway. It will only get even more surreal.

dammit.

post-cyberpunk can be kinda uplifting i think so let's hope that's the direction

the snowden archives

Neuromancer?

Putin says he can get asylum in Russia if he stops leaking information.
SNOWden must be QUIET: WINTER MUTE.

Watching the Greenwald speech from the Socialism 2013 conference--surprisingly full of jokes. Also:

I really do love this conference. There's no conference quite like it in terms of the vibrancy and energy, I genuinely leave inspired each time I've attended. These last 4 weeks have been the most exhausting and intense four weeks of my life, but I knew that agreeing to speak here would compel me to reflect on this time, and I wanted that. But the real reason I wanted to speak at this conference is that unlike a lot of conferences I attend & speak at, this conference is focused not only on identifying political grievances, but also on creating activism that will address those political grievances, which is crucial. The reason I say that is because at every political speech I give, one of the first questions is always "well what can we do about these things?" And I think that question is very much the predominant theme of this conference. The idea that there's really no point in talking about political problems and systemic injustices if you're not also simultaneously grappling with the question of what I as an individual can do about it.

whassup

this been done by a somebody

http://conference.first.org/program/index.aspx

ask a random anonymous private individual some questions

seriously hit it up babies

worst outcome is a little less cowbell than you dreamt

of

Ecuador has washed its hands of him and said he's Russia's problem now. Sheremetyevo's transit lounge isn't somewhere i'd particularly want to be stuck for weeks on end.

Can you get me a pass to that? I'm a well-travelled out-of-work drone rock database programmer who's looking to join the inside track.

Welcome back Tomboto

dang it, the conference already happened. Still looking for work though...

The requests were made to a number of countries including the Republic of Austria, the Plurinational State of Bolivia, the Federative Republic of Brazil, the People’s Republic of China, the Republic of Cuba, the Republic of Finland, the French Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany, the Republic of India, the Italian Republic, the Republic of Ireland, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Republic of Nicaragua, the Kingdom of Norway, the Republic of Poland, the Russian Federation, the Kingdom of Spain, the Swiss Confederation and the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

so... which of these states is going to take him? i think it's interesting that he put the prc and cuba on his list.

Boliva, probably.

Bolivia, even.

Cuba is nice for old school spy scenery.

Still confused: couldn't this clown have just driven to Mexico then flown to Cuba? Shouldn't he have maybe lined up asylum first, done a little googlin', before he started leaking stuff?

Also, how does a computer programmer/analyst geek for the gov get an exotic dancer girlfriend in Hawaii?

These are all important questions.

I would assume that Cuba isn't his favoured destination. "Defecting" to a communist country, rather than, idk Finland, is nagl if you want people in the US to take you seriously. Obv couldn't have lined up asylum first as the NSA is reading the Finnish embassy's e-mails.

Regardless, why did he start in Hong Kong? And why did he not work this shit out first? He's not ending up in Finland. One way or another, he's going to end up in a warm place with a horrible human rights record.

Also, sorry, but leaking state secrets before seeking asylum in some other country is "nagl" no matter where he ends up. It's not like his detractors will be all, oh, he's in Finland, that's cool. The people who want him hung for treason likely don't distinguish between Europe and Soviet Russia.

I can think of some other reasons why a Ron Paul fan wouldn't want to spend the rest of his life in Cuba

thanks for apologizing

I doubt the people who want him hung for treason will care either way but anyone who is conflicted about the morality of the US spying on its citizens and allies might. It's a lot easier to question his motives if he jumps on the first plane to Havana.

And yes, he seems more of a libertarian than a socialist so Cuba wouldn't exactly be ideal either way.

he should move to Somalia then badoom-tish

No internet access iirc.

To do list:

1) Find country that would give me asylum
2) Go close to - or even to - that country
3) Leak state secrets
4) Invoke asylum.

I seem to recall Snowden explaining why originally Hong Kong, but I can't remember why. Clearly it didn't work out for him, or at least hasn't yet.

hong kong is the libertarian dreamland

^^^

they got seat belts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k68VJnpqJb8

HK also has some of the fatest internet infrastructure in the world, and is the "home" of shady web companies like megaupload

snowden was a big poster on ars technica forums:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/04/1gbps-symmetric-fiber-us26-in-hong-kong/
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/01/fiber-fail-hong-kong-booms-as-verizon-retrenches/

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=177549

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/peter-king-suspicious-of-snowdens-china-connections-he

lol check the anti-democracy comments up top on that HK youtube

He's the man without a country. Maybe he can get a job in that Russian airport?

If someone like Snowden were in China, say, would he have free and unfettered access to the fast internet? Or would his internet access be censored/monitored/limited?

from what ive read the reason he left HK is because he learned he could be jailed during his asylum/extradition process and would lose access to the internet

https://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/sergei-yolkin-internet-addiction-2011.jpg

idk if everybody already read the interviews greenwald gave abt the initial encounters with snowden but in the socialism talk he says "from the moment he made contact with me he was clear in his understanding that he was relinquishing control of his life, that from here forward he would be pursued, imprisoned, or worse by the most powerful government in the world. i expected to meet a high ranking official at tne end of his career and prepared to live out his final years in defiance. i did not expect to meet such a courageous young man with his whole life still ahead of him, called by conscience to reveal the truth."

prob some hagiography happening there but this is a guy who seems to have gone into this clear eyed, if not entirely accurate in his predictions of outcomes.

"prob"

His poor father...