MAD MEN on AMC - Season 6

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harry's wife appear a few times in first few seasons, no? do we assume they're still married?

i think so, wasn't he complaining last season that his wife put him on a diet? and then he got high and ate all those white castle sliders he was supposed to be bringing home to his family?

“You know what? Let them get their own. You bring home a bag of food and they go at it and there’s nothing left for you? Eat first. That’s my recommendation to people who say they’re getting married and having kids: Eat first.”

discreet, Monday, 17 June 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

i like Dan's take on the pete & bob scene, i'd like for that to be it because it'd be an interesting turn for pete, to be decent even when he's nearly hit bottom, but i don't quite see how he got there. i mean, he suffered real consequences for continuing to cover for don (losing the aerospace account), and could still suffer if gm somehow ends up objecting to bob's shenanigans

discreet, Monday, 17 June 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

oh yeah i think if this show has "taught" us anything it's that pete will suffer for this act of (quasi-) generosity.

either that or he'll become like the smoking exec's son, blackmailing bob into sex in a detroit hotel.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

def like that Bob turned out to be the gay-Don Draper, was gonna be disappointed if all there was to him was the gay angle. not sure where there going with him exactly and not expecting fireworks in the finale but who knows... Bob n Don bro-down?

temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

to be decent even when he's nearly hit bottom

I didn't take Pete's action as being decent, more self-preservative. he remembers it didn't go so well for him when he tried to "out" Don, and doesn't want to get in the middle of it with Bob the way he did with Don. Hence the "I'm off limits". altho how that will work out in practice in terms of Chevy I dunno.

temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

I loved that Bob's reply was "can you give me a day's head start"? It's amazing how prepared he was to start running.

polyphonic, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link

not as savvy/self-confident as Don there

temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link

pete & bob are so gonna hook up

wk, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

but there's a huge difference between the two which everybody knows: Don, at the time Pete tried to out him to Cooper, was abslutely essential to the agency, Bob isn't. Pete tried to get rid of Don to clear a path for himself upwards. Getting rid of Bob wouldn't do anything for him. So now he can use his knowledge to control Bob.

mizzell, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

Hey Gals & Guys maybe you should just enjoy the mystery of BB

copter (waterface), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

yeah there's that. altho it was weird how hard the other execs threw in for Bob, I thought.

xp

temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

well Bob has made a very good show of being johnny-on-the-spot all the time, he's ingratiated himself to all of them. appearance is everything

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

i thought "i'm off limits" was "stop hitting on me"

in fact my whole original takeaway from that scene was that pete was just negotiating not to be the target of a "pervert" who'd be "capable of anything" -- real gay panic. but that seems maybe too narrow and petty even for pete

discreet, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

I think there was definitely that to it, but that was compounded by Bob's similarity to Don

temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

have don and bob actually had any interaction yet? i don't remember any scenes with them talking to each other.

dunham checks in (get bent), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

in the elevator. bob had coffee

mizzell, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link

Bob's Spanish-language freakout on the phone + Bob's sudden ability to stop smiling and get dark and threatening + the angelic gay gaze = ominous portents

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 June 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link

bob offering don coffee on the ~elevator~ was bob's first scene iirc

discreet, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

Total reverse Don Draper, viewed from the outside. I got the impression Pete was partly just staying out of his way as he rises to the top and pushes everyone else out of the way, sorta

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

another thing is that maybe pete figured bob will eventually hang himself with his own rope, so pete can have some fun without looking like the bad guy he always looks like

dunham checks in (get bent), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

Pete has kind of been my favourite character this season? It makes me feel dirty, but his reactions to everything are hilarious

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Bob's Spanish-language freakout on the phone + Bob's sudden ability to stop smiling and get dark and threatening + the angelic gay gaze = ominous portents

― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, June 17, 2013 1:53 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this was way creepy, the way he dropped his act and laid into pete then just turned the smile back on

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

pete's subplots this season seem fairly independent from the other ones, bob's excepted of course

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

i really liked the curled-up don bookends, and i guess the whole ep hewed to that in-shock/withdrawn trope to a degree, but it was tough to watch without just feeling really really bummed/disturbed at what lies ahead :\

69, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

yeah not gonna be pretty

is there an anigif out there yet of Kiernan Shipka's little smirk when her roommate concluded that "she liked trouble"

temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

Bob's Spanish-language freakout on the phone + Bob's sudden ability to stop smiling and get dark and threatening + the angelic gay gaze = yumz

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 June 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

It's funny at least twice on this show someone has said "not all surprises are bad" but there's always a constant foreboding something terrible is about to unfold (and usually does).

ryan, Monday, 17 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

oooh good spot -- who besides juggling roger said that?

69, Monday, 17 June 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link

Don says it to Sally in the same episode that baby Gene is born. Season 3.

ryan, Monday, 17 June 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

"i thought you were going to pee"

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

The appearance of "Porpoise Song" reminds me about the similarities between the opening of HEAD and the MM credits. Mickey Dolenz IS the 'falling man'.

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 June 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link

xxp ahhh right

69, Monday, 17 June 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link

no rizzo this week

data halls and oate (stevie), Monday, 17 June 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link

the thing about rosemary's baby is, yes it's unsettling, but the ending is also kind of hilarious

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link

it's all kind of hilarious!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

yeah, but the ending in partic

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link

so what precisely is the deal w/ pete's mom and manolo?

also love joan's "jewish mother" accent

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

the acted out scenario was hilarious. Joan and Don-the-baby especially

temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

The moment I find out anyone is gay, I lose interest. Bob Benson is no exception.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link

https://mlkshk.com/r/RVO5

Dan I., Monday, 17 June 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

Srsly, what a fucking great episode.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link

"THE GREATEST TV DRAMA OF ALL TIME" at the end had me in stitches

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link

I agree with JF (?) that Pete likes to keep Bob under his thumb. Knowing of his secret past and being able to hold it against him, as a threat. Which he wasn't able to do with Don.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link

Anyone I've known named Manolo is libidinous as hell.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link

"THE GREATEST TV DRAMA OF ALL TIME"

Rob Sheffield is a cool guy, but when I first saw this pullquote from what is presumably some kind of review he'd written I flipped out. WHAT.THE.HELL.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

I almost hope the manolo thing remains an enduring mystery a la the Russian on the sopranos.

ryan, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link

"THE GREATEST TV DRAMA OF ALL TIME" at the end had me in stitches

― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, June 17, 2013 6:31 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i read it w/ an implied ellipse, à la muhammad ali

"the greatest TV drama... OF ALL TIIIME!"

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 17 June 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

Otm. The 'next week on the season finale of Mad Men'-trailer was all sorts of shite too.

Massive love for Sally. And for Glen, who resisted peer pressure and is truly ~devoted~ to her well-being.

For some reason I really loved Don this episode. He was bad ass and mean, but he knew it: he at least had "qualities" again. In the previous episodes he'd been an empty vessel, the man without qualities. At least he's got something of his streak back; even if it's mean, still very much favourable to watch compared to a Don that is just falling, helplessly (hi dere title sequence).

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 June 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link


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