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pffft xp

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

xp i rewatched the episode right now. i think he meant that being in the ad world had naturalized capitalism/branding/corporate culture for him, made it second nature, and he feels this to be a violation.

Yeah, this comes after Cutler calling him out. He feels compromised and too weak to not be part of the machinery of oppression, etc.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:30 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.buzzsugar.com/Bob-Benson-Mad-Men-30649888

dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

i think he is either a corporate spy or a government spy -- because he is always lurking around -- but that he believes in what he is doing so the earnestness is not disingenuous, even though he is being dishonest all the time about his real motives. in any case, cutler's interactions with him are amazing. "i don't mean to interrupt"... "but that's what you're doing."

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

Bob Benson will sabotage the Vega!

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:32 (eleven years ago) link

definitely like the 'G Man' theory. although also the 'he's just nice! leave him be!' theory is pretty OTM too.

piscesx, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link

He and Ginzo will create the beloved advertising icon "Juan Valdez".

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 05:08 (eleven years ago) link

Don's "are we done yet?" after just sitting down was the biggest lol of the entire series for me.

Pete's "moment" at the end is tough to read, but he sees the corporate writing on the wall much more clearly than don or roger do.

ryan, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

In retrospect, I'm kinda amazed at how naturally Pete toked up considering he's the one character that doesn't smoke anything.

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

He didn't appear to be inhaling.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

Campbell/Benson '92!

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

I don't buy any of the conspiracy theories surrounding Bob Benson. That's just not this show's style.

He just seems like a prototypical wannabe ladder-climber type to me.

lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

he's the show's best character not appearing in season 1 as far as I'm concerned

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno about that, i like stan a lot.

monotony, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

i like the Bob-is-Don's-son theory for sheer creativity & appeal as a soap opera angle. I don't buy it. But I can dig it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

Also love Henry's Mom and Joan's Mom.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno about that, i like stan a lot.

― monotony, Tuesday, June 4, 2013 7:43 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah hm.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:01 (eleven years ago) link

do you remember how odious stan was in his first major episode?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 06:28 (eleven years ago) link

I do, heh. The beard might be a mind-controlling alien parasite.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 07:05 (eleven years ago) link

I actually feel guilty liking Stan now because I LOATHED him so much at first why bcz misogyny/chauvinism, entitlement, dismissiveness, etc. It's hard for me to reconcile the fact that he's kinda likable (and also attractive) now

walk in the room they throwin Sade left to right (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 07:16 (eleven years ago) link

I've never rewatched previous seasons, so I don't remember many details about how we got where we are. That being the case, it's easy to forget Stan's old characteristics because it's like they never happened.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 07:21 (eleven years ago) link

I almost kinda resented Peggy for putting up w/ his disgusting sexist bullshit and being buddy-buddy w/ him after how horribly he treated her, but maybe that's just indicative of the era, idk.

walk in the room they throwin Sade left to right (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 07:32 (eleven years ago) link

The relationship between Stan and Ginsberg is kind of sweet actually. Also Stan and Peggy. But it does feel like they've dialled the obnoxiousness of that character back a lot over the last few seasons, but hey that happens as people progress through their 20s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah after the intro of the beard i was kind of wondering if it was even the same guy

sons of plutarchy (will), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 09:08 (eleven years ago) link

it does feel like they've dialled the obnoxiousness of that character back a lot over the last few seasons

Ditto x 100 for Ted Chaough.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

Ted was only obnoxious when he was actively competing with Don though. Stan was actually an obnoxious person.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago) link

Well yeah. Back then, people LIKED Don.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

Dunno, Ted kinda looks like a dick.

... (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

Would totally watch a Norman Lear-type Stan & Ginsberg sit com.

Darin, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

Megan Draper is already dead

Random ACRB.PNG Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Alright, I'll play along. I don't have anything to really add to this Sixth Sense-type theory, but I'll ride the coaster until it turns out to be wrong (or right?).

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah. I feel if this was Lost I would totally buy it. For Mad Men, not so much, but it's a good theory, ie. backed up with arguments and facts.

Random ACRB.PNG Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

Megan having already died could also be one explanation for Don being so 'off' this season

Random ACRB.PNG Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

I've begun to think that having the show end with Don's death (or just a lot of deaths in general) would be a bit too Sopranos-esque for Weiner and co.

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

I still don't believe Tony died tbh

Maybe Don will wake up and it was ~all a dream~

Random ACRB.PNG Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

what if WE'RE all dead and this is Weiner's way of letting us know?

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Don "I'm having a lot of emotions too" Draper has been dead inside for a while

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Lol forks. Mind is blown

Random ACRB.PNG Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

I still don't believe Tony died tbh

Maybe Don will wake up and it was ~all a dream~

well a bunch of other people besides Tony definitely died :)

but yr "all a dream" joke gets at why I don't think such a morbid ending is likely, it's too pat/predictable

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Mad Men will go an ~all a dream~ route, but it's been such a low energy show since the beginning basically that whatever the final scene is next year will be a conversation piece.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

Sally will stab Don with a pitchfork

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

last season should take place in 1982

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

It'll end with a present-day shot of Weiner saying to a TV executive, "So, that's the show. Whaddya think?"

The executive, played by Jon Hamm, says "Pass."

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

says "Pass." "You're fired."

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

Otm up here Shakey :)

And I too think this is not the show for huge dramatic endings, but rather some underwhelming yet significant shifts. Which I applaud.

Random ACRB.PNG Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

tony's dead btw

balls, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

spoilers!

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

im only on episode 5 but i had to scroll down and lol @ "i dont think anybody's in the mood"

scrolling back up now brb

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 6 June 2013 06:56 (ten years ago) link

Which seat should I take?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 7 June 2013 08:10 (ten years ago) link


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