no i think it was just a sound bridge. don's apartment is very far from the upper west side
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
how sweet! Don and Betty's last kid is queer.
Thought "first a lesbian daughter, now this." But Bobby's the middle kid. Gene is going to grow up to be the Drapers' Alexis Arquette.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
Man this was a great episode! The bed scene of Betty and Don made this episode. Complete roll reversal: it was Betty seducing Don, by leaving he door open etc. She was in charge. It showed how she did learn from her relationship with Don. That two can play his game. Key shot was after sex Betty lit up a cigarette, all cool like Don used to do when after sex with his 'conquests'.
Betty knows, better than ever, what Don is about, how hollow he is. More than Don himself knows. Betty about Megan was so true: "That poor girl, she doesn't know that loving you is the worst way to get to you" The writing of that scene, and the way it was filmed, was magnificent.
Other points:- “Bob Bunson” lol. Roger was ace this episode - Poor Peggy. They really tried hard to make it look like she hit rock bottom, and it worked. The stabbing scene was hilarious, but add Abe breaking up to her to her diminished role in office, and one can only think she will reach boiling point soon
― Random ASMR Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
Betty about Megan was so true: "That poor girl, she doesn't know that loving you is the worst way to get to you"
Yeah, this was the key moment of the entire season imo.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 27 May 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
Bob really reminds me of the sidler from Seinfeld. He's just always... There. With his coffee.
― Random ASMR Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 May 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
It was for me as well, JF. And very poignant that it got delivered by Betty imho
― Random ASMR Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 May 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
Peggy stabbing Abe was dumb. They should have let the bursts of unexpected gore start and end with the lawnmower. As a recurring motif it gets stilly.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, May 27, 2013 1:21 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
offtm
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
stabbings are some of my fav parts of this show
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
it felt like a really silly way to break up Abe and Peggy. I mean, of all the things.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
but what is life if not punctuated by bursts of unexpected gore?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link
I don't understand hating on the stabbing. I was dying laughing at the broomstick w/ knife spear as soon as I saw it.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
I guess I just don't buy Peggy as being quite the hapless wreck she's become in that apartment. She's an outer borough girl, she's not some shrinking violet.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 02:03 (ten years ago) link
was the stabbing thing a shout out to "side effects"?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
j/k
spoilers and shit
was curious about the historical background for peggy's new apartment and the gentrification of the upper west side, and i found this article from 1969. a pretty interesting read: http://nymag.com/news/features/47182/
― ryan, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link
if she didn't stab him, he couldn't have explained that he wasn't breaking up with her because she stabbed him. that was what made it work.
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
― ryan, Monday, May 27, 2013 9:37 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
thank you! will read. did you notice this was written by the guy who wrote goodfellas?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link
It is an area in which Mrs. Jacqueline Onassis sends her son to a school that is within a block and a half of a Japanese supermarket, an Israeli coffee house with a floor show, a gypsy palmist, a hardware store specializing in "Bueno Bargains," an excellent Jewish delicatessen (Gitlitz), a pizzeria, a Lebanese restaurant (Uncle Tonoose) and a religious-articles store that sells evil-eye repellents, love potions and numerology books.
― leno dunham (get bent), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link
i want to live in that sentence.
reveal of silent Harry Crane in the first meeting was so good
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link
re: outer borough girls...parts of the outer boroughs were, and still are, essentially the suburbs.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:37 (ten years ago) link
first few paragraphs of that article feature a bit of gay-baiting too, ouch.
it was published literally TWO DAYS AFTER STONEWALL. whoa.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link
Befitting this most recent episode's maladroit lesbian subplot.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link
i thought that was a great but excruciating episode. i have such foreboding about everything that happened, from betty and don, to the stabbing of abe, to peggy and ted, to the continued misery of meghan. poor, poor meghan.
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 06:48 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of Stonewall...you think Sal may make an appearance before the finale? Midge, Duck, Freddy and Paul were all resurrected for an episode or two, after all.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:00 (ten years ago) link
I don't think he will but I hope he will. Who would he show up to interact with?
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:11 (ten years ago) link
Don runs out of women, seeks Sal out after seeing Midnight Cowboy.
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:15 (ten years ago) link
Awesome to see Duck again btw
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 09:33 (ten years ago) link
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:00 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"i have strong feelings both ways"
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:00 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sal wasn't really the type of frequent a place like stonewall. more of a working-class bar AFAIK.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
You know the only place he's frequenting c. 1968 is an early grave.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link
so what's up with Bob lying about his dad
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
huh?
― Bob Bunsen (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
yeah, he said his dad was dead in the first ep of the season
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
and then this episode Bob told Pete this doctor/nurse he was recommending had nursed his dad to health
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
BACK to health
also: Peggy hasn't hit bottom yet imho, she still has to get the "I told you so" speech from her mother
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
His father is a Bunn coffeemaker. xp
― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
Surely someone can be nursed back to health and then die at a later date.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
But wasn't it suggested that the nurse had just nursed Bob's dad back from the brink, thus he was available? It's possible though that Bob was just fibbing to save Pete's blushes over offering him help on the nursing front.
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
nah, there's something wrong with that dude.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
the whole point of that character is for him to eventually drop the other shoe
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
it's possible that the other shoe is SURPRISE he's a good guy and he's gonna make joan happy forever but i am inclined to doubt it
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
Peggy's mom will also, I'm sure, mention her daughter's age age in one of those discussions where her middle name also gets an airing.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
I've been thinking of Bob as a sort of male version of Meghan - a wide-eyed, essentially good-hearted naif who is being set up to be swallowed whole by the soul-sucking joylessness of the advertising world
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
except the actor plays him as way more ingratiating and obseqious
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link
I think he's the anti-Draper in the sense that he's working under an alias for nefarious purposes. Don't know which nefarious purposes yet, but...
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
it's possible that the other shoe is SURPRISE there's a funny smell coming from Bob's basement
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
bob
http://cdnl.complex.com/mp/620/400/80/0/bb/1/ffffff/7b9d779ed56e23e7e3d7e860829167b3/images_/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/POP_CULTURE/2012/10/the-30-rock-season-premiere-best-lines/30rockhazelcopy2_345705.jpg
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link