otoh if you want to play you should prob. come out as something not not-something
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Saturday, 25 May 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
isn't that the ultimate though
― Pasty, British & Shit (wins), Saturday, 25 May 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
oh wait no it isn't
the non-rapist pride community is begin to assert itself
― ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 25 May 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
nigger, faggot, kike, greaser
what, like the Fonz?
― how's life, Saturday, 25 May 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
it must be difficult to develop close relationships if you don't do sex.
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
it seems a strange thing to take pride in
The same could be said for anything one had no hand in.
― Me So Hormetic (Sanpaku), Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
ok i've gone from by jove, aimless, you're correct to more power to them, we need more awareness about sexual variance, not less.
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
I regularly persecute asexuals
― iatee, Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
they all probably buy their own houses and don't carpool
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
dot tumblr dot com
― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
xp zing!
― the late great, Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
what happens to a boner deferred? does it dry up like a raisin in the sun?
― the late great, Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
http://asexualnews.com/index.php/asexuality-101/676-demiromantic-asexuals
― Mordy , Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
Acephobia and Asexophobia are the Asexual equivalents of Homophobia. Although neither of these words have gained any official recognition outside of the Asexual community, the words are easy enough to dissect. The terms refer to fear of Asexuals and Asexuality. Examples of this can be found, although the term itself is somewhat misleading. Even people who use the term homophobia are often refer to acts motivated by hatred.
― Mordy , Saturday, 25 May 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
Acephobia
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ucXNr3si5F4/UHLoPXiKAzI/AAAAAAAAc04/hHZF0pOqY9w/s1600/ace-ventura-screaming_510.jpg
― Pasty, British & Shit (wins), Sunday, 26 May 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
I suspect there's substantial overlap between asexuals those taking higher dose SSRIs.
You wouldn't frequent a theater that never played the third reel, either.
― Me So Hormetic (Sanpaku), Sunday, 26 May 2013 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
I never knew "involuntary celibacy" was an actual category (or at least one worthy of a wikipedia entry). Funny, I've been using that exact term to describe myself for the last while. Anyways, I generally don't tell people I'm a still sexually inactive 25 year old since most people would probably just look at me funny. Obviously that's not a grain of sand compared to daily homophobia, but sadly you can't underestimate how deeply rooted normative ideas about sexuality can be and how petty people can be about anything that veers off course.
― ed.b, Sunday, 26 May 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
I passed as gay in high school and my brief sojourn in the military, can't say the abuse/derision really differs - though how its taken certainly does: I had a lot more sympathy to those who were born gay, being merely effeminate (largely due to an absence of male role models in my life) myself.
― Me So Hormetic (Sanpaku), Sunday, 26 May 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think the hostility toward asexuality shown in this thread is justification enough for their wanting a pride movement. "persecution" happens in subtle as well as overt ways and people should be allowed to be concerned with the former if they feel it affects them. i really cannot see the downside of an asexual pride movement and think it is gross for people who are ostensibly not part of that community saying it is "weird". sorry aimless, i generally really love your posts, but your views on this issue are off the mark.
― Treeship, Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
The thing is -- in the case of people who (lgbtq or not) are subject to e.g. homophobia, there's a continuum from violent gaybashing (and premeditated murder) to everyday casual homophobic slurs that leave people feeling like they'll never be accepted, and when people experience homophobic treatment along that continuum it evokes the rest of the continuum, there's always the sense that the escalation is there in potentia. In the case of people who are subject to "acephobia", that continuum would be much shorter: sure, people who deviate from the social-romantic norm can get treated like they are weird and wrong, and can feel that they'll never be accepted. I get that people can live in social worlds where there is a lot of pressure to partner up, and to be romantically and sexually active, and that it feels like social support is withdrawn if you don't do this. But no-one's going to see you walking down the street not holding hands with someone who you're not sleeping with and solely on the basis of that decide to kick your head in.
The society that we presently live in really overemphasises the primacy of the romantic-sexual couple, and it seems like people have looked back into their own family pasts and interpreted every maiden aunt and every confirmed bachelor and every dissatisfied spouse, and decided to code them all as people who were frustrated in their sexual desires. It's very likely that for many of them the presence/absence of sex wasn't the problem -- the things that concerned them in life could have been material, economic, spiritual. But we are a culture that thinks in terms of two-person households and love marriages, of nuclear families rather than multi-generational, of sexual self-discovery as a form of personal fulfilment, that the sex one has reflects and forms the self that one is. It's a corrective against previous generations' attitudes, and in a few generations people will understand the world (not just the present, but historically) through a different lens.
so of course people feel put-upon by society at large! it is a sad irony that we live in a world where people are expected to preemptively define themselves by sexuality so 'not being interested in sexuality' becomes itself a sexuality! but... no-one is nailbombing a pub because they think you are a moral degenerate.
― ✌_✌ (c sharp major), Sunday, 26 May 2013 11:37 (eleven years ago) link
Treeship, I can endure your disapproval, so long as you understand that I was not saying that asexuality itself was weird, but rather that asexuals encouraging one another to join together in a social movement to assert communal pride in their asexuality struck me as weird, basically for the reasons c sharp major articulates so well in his post. I can see that asexuality might be ill understood in society, and asexuals might feel somewhat unaccepted, but by taking on the trappings of earlier movements such as black pride and gay pride they implicitly claim to be in a similar situation. They aren't.
It seems to me that an asexual pride movement falls closer in the social spectrum to a theoretical movement for freckle pride than to, for example, gay pride. While I, too, can see no downside to this theoretical movement of the freckled to assert their right not to be ostracized for their freckles and I cannot claim to be a member of this group, and while freckled people might certainly feel that their freckles mark them out in society and the presence of freckles affects them (all the criteria you specified) I would persist on thinking it weird if some freckled people started agitating for freckle pride as societywide movement. Gross of me, I know, but I'd still feel that way.
― Aimless, Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
basically for the reasons c sharp major articulates so well in his post
insert your own 'cisgender assumption' joke heeeere
― OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
proud of yourself, are ya
― OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
why yes, I am, slightly
*disapproving glare*
*whimper*
no autosex for me tonight
― OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Aimless i knew what you were saying and sorry if I wasn't clear. I think that asexuality, being a sexual identity that forces one to make nonstandard (non-heteronormative) lifestyle choices seems different than something superficial like freckles, especially bc terms like "sexless" are used disparagingly sometimes and "virility" is something society seems to value, but whatever, agree to disagree.
― Treeship, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
in his post
I paused a while over that phrasing.
My first inclination was to say "in the post above this one", but realized how often other posts show up during the composition of a long post. So then I thought, "in the post above", but I wasn't sure how many posts c sharp major had already made "above" mine, making this potentially ambiguous. Then I considered inserting a quotation from c sharp major, but couldn't decide how to do this that wasn't awkward. So I finally said to hell with it and used "in his post", knowing it might not be appropriate either, but at least it was brief and simple.
― Aimless, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun
― OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
terms like "sexless" are used disparagingly sometimes
As the current bullying thread should remind us, almost anything can be made the pretext for disparagement. Nose hair. Wattles. A wandering eye. Long fingers. A prominent adam's apple. Oddly placed whorls in the hair on your head. Cruelty finds its own reasons.
― Aimless, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
lol imago
― ✌_✌ (c sharp major), Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
good thread
as a freckled dude in remission can i just say freckles are hawt, would take them back in a second, especially if my hairline reverted to the position it occupied at the time in question
― my name is louis and i'm an acoleuthic (darraghmac), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
Nose hair. Wattles. A wandering eye. Long fingers. A prominent adam's apple. Oddly placed whorls in the hair on your head.
also hawt imo
― too busy sockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
previous ms mac had an adams apple, never found any supporting evidence o trouble me
― my name is louis and i'm an acoleuthic (darraghmac), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
previous ms mac had an adams apple, never found any supporting evidence to troublearouse me
copyedited that for u, 1st one's free of charge
― too busy sockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
(imagine there is a bolded apostrophe in "adams" otherwise that gag doesn't work)
― too busy sockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
when this fey mood takes you, you really ought to post as `loses`
― my name is louis and i'm an acoleuthic (darraghmac), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
aw man cmon man
― too busy sockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
not my fault you entered stage left with a target for a dn tbf
― my name is louis and i'm an acoleuthic (darraghmac), Monday, 27 May 2013 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, there's a spectrum now!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/asexual-relationships_n_3362206.html?1371648830&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2013_05_SexualRomanticSpectrumWIDE.png
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
Sort of dig the idea of being "homoromantic," regardless of which dot in the right column my dotted line connects to.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
these folks really test my ideological commitment to respect of others' subjectivities
― R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
They really ought to come up with other ways to say "fuck you" at moments like this.
― midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
everyone wants to be a special snowflake. too bad no matter who you're attracted to (or not, or "demiattracted to", whatever the fuck that is), you're still the same slab of crap we all are.
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
last 3 posts super otm
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
https://twitter.com/TumblrTXT/status/371245275190681600
https://twitter.com/TumblrTXT/status/370265314443157504
― R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
I think the spectrum is v v interesting, and I identify with a lot of what ppl say about intimacy and the incredible complexity of desire. But it's hard to report on srs aspects when the ppl you interview say things like "One woman Brotto studied said she masturbates to mythical fairies."
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
I also think a lot of this is pathologizing things on the spectrum of normal human variation, but I can basically get that when you are NEVER represented in depictions or the public space, putting a concrete name on how you're different is profoundly validating.
― Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link