"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

eh jin arbuckle

AWESOME THEORY TIME - Ben knows so much about the castaways, and how to push their buttons, because he has met them all before, years ago, back in the Dharma days. I think the remaining survivors are probably stuck at some point during the time of the Dharma Initiative and we're going to see quite a lot of younger Ben over the rest of the series.

There are some pretty big holes in this theory but I am going to will them away by not thinking about them too much.

yeah wasn't too wild about french guy's arm coming off and jin time travelling to see the arm still lying there but now it's old and then getting to the beach to see rousseau shoot her boyf fuck dat

nice to see and hear the smoke monster again though

― conrad, Sunday, February 15, 2009 12:41 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i liked this... you have to show jin realizing what's going on somehow, or at least getting a clue that he's time-jumping.

i posted this before, but when i thought the arm time-traveled with jin iwas like AWESEOMOESLGDKJLSKDGJ

daniel dae-kim is so great at pulling the WTF IS GOING ON HERE?! face.

AWESOME THEORY TIME - Ben knows so much about the castaways, and how to push their buttons, because he has met them all before, years ago, back in the Dharma days. I think the remaining survivors are probably stuck at some point during the time of the Dharma Initiative and we're going to see quite a lot of younger Ben over the rest of the series.

I was thinking something like this--if the O6-x return to the island back in the Dharma days old Ben tells young Ben how to convince Richard that he should be the leader--creating a second self-fulfilling leader loop.

That first beach scene made me think "poor Jin, he spends all that time learning English and ends up with a load of people talking French to one another".

aw, ace of cakes made lost a cake!

http://dispatchesfromtheisland.blogspot.com/2009/02/sweet-100.html

Dude--was that Hurley's voice saying the numbers on the transmission?

― President Keyes, Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:05 PM (5 days ago

No one has replied this yet but people on other boards are also saying they think it sounded like Hurley.

What transmission? The one the French dudes heard? I must have missed that bit, maybe try again.

It would be awesome if Hurley had put the numbers there in the first place, Moebius-tastic.

Yeah, the Frenchies picked it up at the beginning of the episode--presumably it was the same one Hurley's nuthouse friend heard while at sea.

i listened again and it doesn't really sound like Hurley to me? :/

French dudes were pretty hot though, too bad they had to die so quickly. Also it bothered me that none of them looked 1988 enough.

It would be awesome if Hurley had put the numbers there in the first place, Moebius-tastic.

― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Monday, February 16, 2009 1:18 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thread keeps coming back to this for some reason—i really fucking hope they DONT pull this kind of shit

yeah tbh I really amn't looking forward to jack and kate being adam and eve and think that shit is dumb

sawyer and juliet, guys

yeah the time-loop thing is great for Locke and his Other leader self-fulfilling prophecy but otherwise it just seems gimmicky. Also if it is jack and kate, he can't have kept the two stones he found all that time right? meh.

more gimmicky than a wheel that changes time?

the adam & eve thing is different. im talking about a guy knowing a thing cuz he himself told him that thing and so on

nothing wrong with gimmicks as long as they're good... moebius thing is flimsy and lame imo

i'm not a fan of the adam and eve thing really, seems a bit too perfect to me, but let's see what they do with it i guess.

maybe it will be the actual adam and eve.

for better or worse im feeling like moebius time loop is how its gonna play out

i will complain about it on the internet if that happens

yes it is gimmicky. maybe because a wheel that changes time is kind of whoa-crazy and external to the characters, whereas all the other time-loop theories is directly related to them suggesting that they really have no control over their life at all and that it's all been predetermined. Which is totally boring from a story/character perspective.

theres def going to be a BUT WE CAN CONTROL OUR LIVES NOTHING HAS BEEN DECIDED aspect as evidenced by desmond

yay desmond, boo everyone else?

i was saying boo desmond

desmond's my boo.

except when he's dressed like Bono in the future.

so is mrs hawking's church a dharma related building then? the computers seem similar in the episodes so far.

She seems to have Others and Widmore ties--I don't know about Dharma though.

HURLEY'S READING Y: THE LAST MAN!

Beardless Frank!

Who thinks the island would've been moving through time every 108 minutes if Desmond wasn't down there punching in the code?

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"How can you read?"
"My mother taught me."

Ben's mother died in childbirth. Was he just being a smartass, or is there something to it?

I wondered that about Ben's mother too. It's possible that someone else helped raise him besides his alcoholic father, and that's who he's referring to.

Beardless Frank is unnerving.

Dharma Jin is in a newish van and clean jumpsuit, so they're in the 70s right now, right?

I think he was just being an ass.

Looking forward to finding out how Hurley was convinced (threats to his parents probably), what happened to Aaron, what the Sayid-in-custody story is. But I hope they keep it brief.

xpost, yeah (70s).

So let me get this straight: Sun demands that Ben tell her how he knows that Jin is alive or she will kill him. Ben promises he can prove it to her and drives her to Ms. Hawking, who says they all need to go back to the island but doesn't mention anything about who's still on the island. Instead of asking about Jin or following through on her threat to Ben, who has clearly proven nothing, Sun just wanders away.

Yeah, that was pretty clumsy.

Most of this episode was clearly left vague so they can fill things in over the next howevermany weeks.

i thought the guy from "la haine" was on it before but i was getting the episode where sayid infiltrates the terrorists in australia mixed up with that don cheadle movie "traitor".

also, jack asks ben about how he knows mrs. hawking, ben mumbles something about faith and jack doesn't follow up.

speaking of not following up.. does anyone ever ask Ben or anyone what the purpose of the dharma initiative is or why they have to return to the island etc..

seems like those sort of things would be asked a lot every season.... but no... apparently the lost survivors don't care.

no one even asks ben how he got beaten up, so forget about the bigger questions. the O6 are a bunch of idiots.

so recreating flight 815 with proxies huh - hurley was reading comics (Walt) and carrying a guitar case (Charlie), sayid seemed to have been escorted by a US marshal (like Kate), and who wants to bet that Kate is pregnant (Claire)? Hurley doesn't really need anyone to convince him to go back btw, island hallucinations do it for him.

theory of the week: stuck-in-the-70s Juliet helped raise Ben, which is why the Others' therapist lady told her "You look just like her" and why Ben is so attached to her.

where is Walt anyway?

Mr. Benjamin Linus ate with relish the inner organs of beasts and fowls.

yikes that line. because I thought at first that Ben got beaten up by Charles Widmore, but now I just got a sickening feeling that he killed Penny, and it was Desmond who beat him up. :( :(

Most of this episode was clearly left vague so they can fill things in over the next howevermany weeks.

Welcome back, flashback episodes.

sayid in chains to go back to guam for that golfcourse guy he shot?