MAD MEN on AMC - Season 6

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idg yr complaints about establishing him as a bookreader - they show him reading all the time. who's he going to discuss these books with, anyway? (apart from maybe his beatnik ex-gf?) Roger? Megan? Joan? these people don't read.

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:09 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

do they really show him reading all the time though? it seems like they trot that out once or twice a season, notably in the first or last-ish episodes.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

don's expression of that inner life is almost totally circumscribed by what he can express through advertising. this is a major aspect of the show, though it was more prominent in earlier seasons (carousel, for one example)

discreet, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

there was some Ian Fleming novel he was reading in bed awhile ago iirc. and then there was the lotus and the whatever book for the Honda account. the poetry book he mailed to Anna. Reading poetry in a bar in one of the earlier seasons. This is just off the top of my head.

xp

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

don's not a voracious reader, he reads selectively and intentionally

discreet, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

they hint at an inner life he doesn't make accessible to anyone else in his normal life. connecting his reading of Dante to his affair seemed a nod in that direction.

think this is prob otm - the inner life he hides is one in which he's more vulnerable and unhappy.

xpost he did have his diary too - that time is interesting in that he seemed a bit more sane and at least in touch with his own inner state. plus he was swimming.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

books he has been seen on screen reading

Meditations in an Emergency- Frank O'hara
The Chrysanthemum and the Sword- Ruth Benedict
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold- John Le Carre
Exodus- Leon Uris
The Best of Everything- Ronna Jaffee
The Fixer- Bernard Malamud
The Inferno- Dante
Odds Against- Dick Francis

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

ah Le Carre, not Ian Fleming, mixing up my spy novels

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

intentionally or not, that fact that Don is a bit of a nullity (especially to the other characters, and that's something that's brought up a lot i think, he's "Tarzan swinging from vine to vine") is interesting since the rest of the characters are so rich. it's like he's this looming empty figure whose whims and moods they have to cope with. a capital F father, but don isn't really there to himself.

ryan, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Wasn't he reading "Tropic of Cancer" at some point?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

ha i used that tarzan metaphor to describe the tenuous state of my freelancing career last night w/o even realizing where it came from

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

Don reads Fleming, too.

M: "My father won't care if he finds out you read James Bond."
D: "You know what? It's a good book. You should read it."

Millsner, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

considering there are only 13 episodes a season, trotting it out once or twice seems pretty reasonable to me in conveying that he reads from time to time

kaygee, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

omg, it's true, we rarely see don read. also I'm not sure I've ever seen him go to the bathroom! think about it. highly suspicious.

wk, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Seen him puke enough

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

with Don everything comes out the same way it went in, the singularity of his being, his internal processes and functions, his drives and motivations, they are forever obscured.

ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

Meditations in an Emergency- Frank O'hara
The Chrysanthemum and the Sword- Ruth Benedict
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold- John Le Carre
Exodus- Leon Uris
The Best of Everything- Ronna Jaffee
The Fixer- Bernard Malamud
The Inferno- Dante
Odds Against- Dick Francis

― mizzell, Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:33 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dante is kind of the odd man out here.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

dante was lindsey weir's doing

balls, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Seen him puke enough

exactly! he's a secret bulimic who does all of his reading in the bathroom.

wk, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

figure most of them were directly inspired by other characters/ plot points. chrysanthemum for Honda, exodus for Isreal tourism/Rachel, O'hara to prove that beatnik wrong

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

i'm just picturing some kind of book club where you read books mentioned on mad men and discuss their deep relevance to that season's plot.

i'm going to walk off my 2nd-floor porch, brb.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

apparently this is Pynchon that Pete is reading
http://www.nypl.org/sites/default/files/images/crying_of_lot_49.jpg

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

xp
yes, the New York Library is encouraging that: http://www.nypl.org/blog/2012/02/27/mad-men-reading-list

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

i'm going to walk off my 2nd-floor porch, brb.

and fly away like superman?

wk, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

cyring of lot 49 no?

on the one hand that seems totally uncharacteristic of pete, on the other hand he does look pretty befuddled there.

through the 6 seasons there have been a few times where they've tried to suggest a sensitive-intellectual side to pete but they seem to have abandoned those efforts.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

hi guys. i like this show a lot, and i'm strongly considering pursuing advertising in the near future. i've been watching more and more episodes with my boyfriend (on sundays, he plays old episodes throughout the day til the new one comes on). i just wanted to step foot in this thread and say i'll probably b posting more. my big observation for today is that Megan looked rly hot in the last episode.

surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

O'hara to prove that beatnik wrong

wasn't o'hara sent to him by the real don draper's wife?

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

or did he send it to her?

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

no he sent it to her after reading it. he asked a guy in a bar who was reading it if it was any good, and the dude said, i don't think you'd like it, or something.
xp

mizzell, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

this may have been discussed already but since i only recently caught up i was thinking about the MLK episode and i found it really interesting that, in distinction from the JFK one (if memory serves), there seemed a lot more anxiety about "appropriate" responses to the tragedy, and the characters even went so far as to police each other's responses--especially given that that sort of thing is such a predictable part of our discourse around national tragedies now as a result of a radically more diverse set of voices available in the media.

ryan, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

lol joan's hug

surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

You can be a 'sensitive intellectual' and still be a jackass to other people fwiw

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

if ilx has taught us anything

UTW, USA, ILX LIFER (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

megan's lurex dress was outstanding, she looked like a super fancy go-go dancer

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that thing was ridiculous, wit her frosted makeup

surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

mom knows how to give advice!

surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

when in doubt, listen to juliette binoche

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

julia ormond goddamnit

balls, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

listen. in my mind if you have black hair and delicate features and you speak french you're juliette binoche, don't muddy the waters with non-french named actresses

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Just watched this week's episode, kind of feel like Sterling turned his shmoozing up to 11. His interactions with his airline friend were great, and somehow it felt like they actually liked each other and he isn't just using her for connections

mh, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 01:14 (eleven years ago) link

yeah she seemed kind of happy to be a part of his intrigues

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

this was a great episode. i kept noticing the direction in a good way. it was jennifer getzinger, who did the suitcase (best episode ever imo).

caek, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 09:11 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, that's cool - the suitcase is one of my favourites as well. This was the best episode this season so far for me.

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

That's hilarious. And apparently 80's Don Draper is moonlighting as Bryan Ferry in a Roxy Music tribute band.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

afaict they shopped his head onto a shot of Michael J. Fox in Doc Hollywood (for some reason)

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

SOMETHING by Emeraon LOL!

calstars, Thursday, 9 May 2013 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

that's an office character. mad men is in an office but it is not actually the tv show the office. i can see how u would get confused tho

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Sunday, 12 May 2013 00:23 (eleven years ago) link


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