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2polaapc has grown on me, and the song skits were not awful - they were not much worse than spitting image parodies and funnier. being about biscuits and all things genital

coupling is also great

hang on we've done this to death loads of times - use other conversations ILE

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

Not last night's episode Dom, believe me. Tho "Coupling" is fucking dire.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

coupling is nowhere near as offensive.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

I quite liked the biscuit song, but I was in a very strange stress induced mood last night.

Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Alang I kiss you. Dadaismus, what are your favourite sitcoms?

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:21 (twenty years ago) link

"I Didn't Know You Cared"

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

I saw some of Two Pints.

It was, indeed, bad.

It makes me think about how out-there young people are, in terms of sexuality, and so on. I mean -- the things that they dare to say, in public, or, to each other. !

the bellefox, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago) link

most young people, that I have heard of, are not really like that.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:07 (twenty years ago) link

It was okay, slightly funny not very haha, I can imagine being really annoyed at the animation after a while. And then there is the Coogan factor.

I admit to kinda liking the biscuit song too, but only coz I like biscuits.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

(coupling also started a new series (4) last night btw, but is only on bbc3 at the moment. the tivo completely failed to turn the set-top box over to the right channel though so i missed the first 10 minutes)

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

I was really looking forward to BBC2 Comedy Night last night. After one hour and fifteen minutes I had still not laughed once. When I realised I was missing Frank Skinner's new sitcom Shane, which I had enjoyed on Saturday night, my misery was complete.

Out of the All-Star Comedy Show I enjoyed the Vic and Bob bits very much, but man cannot live on ten minutes alone.

I also BOUGHT Spaced, which is a load of old cock if ever I saw it.

I see Patsy Kensit is in Emmerdale Farm.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

I also BOUGHT Spaced, which is a load of old cock if ever I saw it.

Wow, this is a depressing turn of events. I usually think of Spaced (or perhaps Black Books) as my banker for those estranged from Brit comedy since Fletch left HM Slade Prison.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

I must be missing something.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

don't doubt yourself.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

You're probably not missing something inherent in the show, maybe something native to other folks' experience of the show. Or something. I think we need a PJ Miller's Top Five BritComs of the 90s/00s.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:23 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe I was a bit harsh. I've just watched episode 5, where they break in and rescue Colin, and although I didn't laugh, I didn't fall into a coma either. Trouble is, I thought it was going to be as good as Sean of the Dead. Also my previous purchase was The Office and it isn't anywhere near as good as that, whether in content or design. Not that it's a fair comparison in anything other than value for money terms. I don't know if I can manage a Top Five. I haven't seen much. I think the character Pinball in Sweet Sixteen is really funny. He should have his own series.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

I was avoiding shaun of the dead because of spaced and simon pegg, in general, but you thought it was OK/good?

cook and madchen are going to see it, in half an hour, should I bother?

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:22 (twenty years ago) link

Yes.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

I will hold you personally responsible (if I do go).

; )

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

Go, RJG. I had no idea who Pegg was, but I really enjoyed it.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:36 (twenty years ago) link

And make sure you sit between Cookie and Madchen.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

So that they are spaced out?

Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

I like Miller's old cock.

I enjoy Dick's position too.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

I am about to watch the American THE OFFICE - I'll report back in 40 minutes.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:34 (twenty years ago) link

Note #1 - it uses ELO's "Mr Blue Sky" as its theme tune.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Let us know what you think, Bazzer.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Hmm. Well, I thought it would be a disaster. The impossible thing is trying to figure out what I'd have thought of it had I never seen the British one. I only actually laughed about twice, but then I don't think my first UK version was much different.

The biggest and probably fatal problem was the David Brent character. It's like he's saying all these thing right, but they seem so... dead. It doesn't help that he's very normal looking - not chubby and sweaty with a try-hard goatee like Ricky Gervais, and most importantly, without the constant nervous half smile that reeks of desperation. It's like watching a robot act the part.

The other characters aren't too bad. I liked the Dawn actress, and the Tim character manages both verisimilitude and sympathy. Again, though, they were both a little Stepford. This made the Gareth character seem too self-consciously weird - it's not right that he's the only abnormal one in the show. The British casting was wonderful because they looked *exactly* like the everymen we sit next to on the tube and at work; in this version you can tell they *tried* to achieve utter normality, but in doing so lost the jagged edges and mundane individualities of the protagonists.

It's hard to criticise the script as it's lifted very closely from (what I remember of) the British version. But this isn't the key - it's the tiny, tiny margin, the fine line between comedy and tragedy in the most mundane of situations, that they haven't quite captured.

So, any Americans who've never seen the British version want to give their thoughts?

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

I've never seen the British version (yet), I don't think the U.S. version will air until the fall though.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

Oh - I thought it was on very soon. My mistake. Ah well.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

shaun of the dead was OK and, even, quite funny, for a while. the action and drama? were a bit much, in the second half. I still don't really like simon pegg and I still quite like nick frost (I learnt his name, again, tonight). it's still a bit cacky, w/ the same people and, you'd imagine, the same jokes. I sat next to ally and he was sitting next to madchen but I'd been promised no snogging, from lucy, at least, beforehand, and I got it. so, yeah, again, I quite liked a bit of it, a bit.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

I have now watched the entire first series of Spaced. It's not as bad as I thought. I will watch series 2.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

series 2 was less funny but stillf good. spaced is the only thing i've ever watched with the commentary on and it's obvious they are having fun (and maybe beer) recording it.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think I'll ever be convinced.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

The only commentary I've listened to is Tony Wilson on 24 Hour Party People.

If series 2 is *less* funny, does it compensate for this in any way?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:07 (twenty years ago) link

For the first 20 minutes of Shaun of the Dead I really couldn't see what the fuss was about (perhaps I was concentrating too hard on working out where I'd seen that bloke before - it was DANGER INCOMING ATTACK and he cooked squirrel, take note Cabbage). The next 45 minutes were pretty good. The rest was OK. There isn't enough knee room in the GFT. I didn't do any snogging. The end.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

If series 2 is *less* funny, does it compensate for this in any way?

It compensates by having the single best episode of the whole thing and a very satisfyingly plotted final episode. And just by being so damn adorable in ways that may forever escape you & RJG.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

Do you fancy the girls? My enjoyment graph started going up in tandem with my fancying the girls graph.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

by having the single best episode of the whole thing
The gunfight ep?

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

= the diagram of a night out episode.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

From The Radio Times:

BBC2 10.00pm

I Am Not an Animal

Creature discomforts: in hostile territory, Philip the Horse enters into a power struggle with Mark the Bird.

(I am beginning to warm to this series)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 May 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

a tv listing mentioned the owl's rapturous anticipation of the london recording industry scene "there'll be go-go dancers! and stew!". see that's what i like.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:19 (twenty years ago) link

I think I must have been sulking last week.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

The owl is very good.

ferg (Ferg), Monday, 17 May 2004 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

This phrase bears repeating:

Scottish tracksuited monkey

Skottie, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

The internet joke had me and Sarah in absolute stitches last night. Very strong. Claire is still my favourite.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 07:36 (twenty years ago) link

i was a bit the worse for wear last night and watching it on video at half 12. i might watch it again as i don't think a lot of it went in...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 07:38 (twenty years ago) link

But you remember the internet joke, right?

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 07:56 (twenty years ago) link

(looking at the credits last night, wasn'ty it Baynham-directed as well? Animation direction is a scary thing - props to the man for his patience)

I'm not too keen on the bounty-hunter element that's been introduced. It could well limit the plot - I don't want every episode to be a rehash of last night's.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 08:01 (twenty years ago) link

I taped IANAA due to the outrageous unfolding drama up at Sunderland; someone at London Live managed to cue in a Vanessa Feltz jingle, interrupting the commentary just as John Oster took the first spot kick. I like to think it put him off.

The VCR was groaning unpleasantly last night - possibly under the weight of my expectations - so I expect a flickery, distorted mess on playback. Like jaaaaam then.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 08:15 (twenty years ago) link

Hang on, I meant sparrow, I think.

ferg (Ferg), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

hmmm, i'm not sure about this

stevem (blueski), Monday, 31 May 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

and yes the BBC lumping different comedy shows together within the same hour or two is sort of annoying if you like one but hate the other (i think i can take or leave I Am Not An Animal thus far but i refuse to watch TPOLAPOCP) - but then again maybe it's their way of luring enthusiasts of conventional sitcom towards the more surreal unorthodox stuff

stevem (blueski), Monday, 31 May 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago) link

TPOLAPOCP = Mexican volcano

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 06:32 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think I'm ever going to be able to watch a whole episode *all the way through*, I get fed up. Also, it was very violent at the beginning and they seem to be upping the filth factor. I found it quite disturbing.

Surreal comedy doesn't seem to have much to do with surrealism, not that I'd know, so what I'm wondering is, what would be a better label for surreal comedy?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:04 (twenty years ago) link

yes i couldn't think of a more apt label, it's not that surreal once you get past the initial premise.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

what would be a better label for surreal comedy?

Disturbtainment? Oddcom? Unencumberedbyrealitygagfest.

I taped this cos I didn't fancy watching it with the in-laws. Mrs Berry seemed to enjoy (not necessarily a vintage) Porridge the other night though.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

Revive!

I am about to watch the American THE OFFICE - I'll report back in 40 minutes.

-- Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:34 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
Note #1 - it uses ELO's "Mr Blue Sky" as its theme tune.

-- Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:36 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

Interesting that the Office (US) pilot episode had been around for almost a full year before it finally aired (March 24, 2005).

I never realized how much The Office theme song sounds like "Mr. Blue Sky" but, hell it sure does.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 12 October 2007 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i love i am not an animal. i'm sure there was another thread about where i said as much

electricsound, Friday, 12 October 2007 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link


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