MAD MEN on AMC - Season 6

Yeah it seems to be cruising so far. Nothing particularly defineable, just something's missing. Maybe a weightiness or tension.

TNC on his waning enthusiasm.

Don not changing while the world changes around him has kind of always been the story....?

was interesting that he just out and said he was against the war this episode. Liked this episode a lot more the second time around, noticed a lot of little details - recurrence of penny motif, matching b&w whore/mother/crone outfits, anti-tobacco undertones etc

also it wasn't clear to me before but I guess they have the Dow Chemical account now thx to Don's scenery-chewing in the last season? nutty.

cosgrove

also lol @ kenny not even acknowledging Peggy at the diner

they mentioned landing Dow in the premiere. the ad mockups w/the couple Don said "didn't exist" were for them.

was interesting that he just out and said he was against the war this episode.

That threw me a bit, but it actually makes sense.

re: pennies

Roger in the last ep: "Turns out the experiences are nothing. They’re just pennies you pick up off the floor, stick in your pocket, and you’re just going in a straight line to you-know-where"

Madchen Amick called Don her "bad penny" when she ran into him in the elevator last season

Don tells the whore at the whorehouse he "dropped a penny" when he was really watching Uncle Mack bone his stepmom through a keyhole

"I'll tell you the same thing I told my daughter, if you put a penny in a jar everytime you make love in the first year of marriage, and then you take a penny out the jar everytime you make love in the second year, you know what you'll have? A jar full of pennies."

re: pennies

Roger in the last ep: "Turns out the experiences are nothing. They’re just pennies you pick up off the floor, stick in your pocket, and you’re just going in a straight line to you-know-where"

Madchen Amick called Don her "bad penny" when she ran into him in the elevator last season

Don tells the whore at the whorehouse he "dropped a penny" when he was really watching Uncle Mack bone his stepmom through a keyhole

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hate this kind of shit. can just see matt weiner rubbing his hands together while dropping in these pointless motifs and muttering, "the internet's gonna love this..."

I am the internet I guess

yeah don specifically opposing war makes sense plus by 68 public support of war had dropped considerably

Month Percentage who agreed with war
August 1965 52%
March 1966 59%
May 1966 49%
September 1966 48%
November 1966 51%
February 1967 52%
May 1967 50%
July 1967 48%
October 1967 46%
December 1967 48%
February 1968 42%
March 1968 41%
April 1968 40%
August 1968 35%
October 1968 37%
February 1969 39%
October 1969 32%
January 1970 33%
April 1970 34%
May 1970 36%
January 1971 31%
May 1971 28%

i read that as "this ny liberal jewish guy is clearly against the war, so i'll say i'm against it to"

if he was talking to some conservatives he'd probably say he was for the war

just dinner table conversation no?

xp you don't understand "penny" is the name of his dog

I usually have the inflation calculator site open while watching Mad Men. The $23k Harry got would've been $143k today.

The $.01 he gave to Lindsey Weir would be $.06 today. And it's the sixth season. It's all a rich tapestry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bcd-zmB4vk

i read that as "this ny liberal jewish guy is clearly against the war, so i'll say i'm against it to"

if he was talking to some conservatives he'd probably say he was for the war

I dunno, remember he experienced a rather similar Asian war himself...

was mel supposed to be jewish? is 'mel' a common jewish name? or does ted mcginley just code as 'jewish' to some ppl?

honestly I never thought much past 'swinging tv-executive' to really wonder

yeah I dunno where the "ny liberal jewish guy" comes from

midtown generally

*rimshot*

maybe amster thought 'well this guy's a degenerate and he holds power in mass media - gotta be jewish!' i don't know, assumed i missed a line like w/ j walter thompson landing heinz

im just gonna move this over here

he was always liberal republican

― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:48 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my hunch where characters would lean in 68

pete, peg, cosgrove (?) - rfk
abe, ginsburg - mccarthy
stan - paulsen
draper - rockefeller
sterling, crane - nixon
cooper - reagan

― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:54 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no way is Draper voting for his ex-wife's new husband's bro

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:55 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and Cooper's been pimping Nixon since Season 3 at least

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:56 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also lol wrong thread maybe eh

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:00 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cooper was pimping nixon in season one but he's a goldwater guy and randian and damn near quoted reagan on medicare at that party. i could see him being establishment enough to go nixon though. good point about don not giving henry francis any business and romney's already flaked out by this point so he'd probably be a nixon guy also. and o this is the wrong thread lol.

― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:04 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can't really see Don going for Nixon's sweaty awkwardness.

is 'mel' a common jewish name?

Nixon is exactly the wrong sort of Draper crush.

I think Megan will discover Don and the Ita chick and be out at the end of the season.

Possible reconciliation with Betty by the series finale

After a long reconciliation buildup and change of character for Don, the Last scene of series finale will be mirror image of last scene of season 5..

Werner wouldn't be at obvious though right?

was mel supposed to be jewish? is 'mel' a common jewish name? or does ted mcginley just code as 'jewish' to some ppl?

― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:30 (Yesterday) Permalink

i think there was an explicit mention of his jewishness at some point in the season. as for liberal i dunno i just got that vibe from the told-you-so way he noted that we're losing the war and just his general outlook/disposition. but who knows.

i don't know why i feel this way but i think don's having been in korea has fuck all to do with whatever opinions he may or may not have about vietnam. i just don't think of "him" (the character) as processing the experience that way.

xpost

my prediction for the show finale is that pete will locate some kind of portal to 1962 and tell his (somewhat) younger self where to make the best investments, how to gain the edge over his coworkers, etc. sort of like biff tannen in back to the future 2.

I keep expecting Sal to show up.

posted this to the other thread too but what the hell, henry francis dropped rockefeller in season 4 for john lindsay & don has mentioned a couple times that he doesn't vote (as seems to be true of most fake people with fake names trying to stay just off the grid).

he doesn't want to vote because he doesn't want to give ammunition to the 21st century GOP in their war on voting rights

discussion i had last night w/ a few ppl where there wasn't immediate consensus -- does don sincerely like his doctor friend or is the fact that he's shtupping his wife an indication that he does not? i feel like the two are separate - he legit likes the doctor, considers him a friend and an interesting person. also he doesn't mind cuckolding him bc don is pretty morally vacuous. other ppl thought he was only using the doctor to get to the wife, or some variation on that, idk.

Answer actually is: Don Draper is very compartmentalised.

that's my theory

It's no different from the guy who's all smiles on social occasions and you'd never guess he was beating his wife, because he's convinced himself what a bro he is.

Oh I'm absolutely convinced he likes Doc Whatsit. He seems to feel more guilt about this particular tryst than usual, part of the reason may be that he's betraying two people he cares for.

Don Draper is very compartmentalised

^^^^

Don Draper:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hdnFN9Lfv2U/TDVc7SsyuRI/AAAAAAAABDs/X4QVgxRxNEU/s400/Apothecary.jpg

Women still like to go into his drawers.

They wanna get all dewey on his decimals.

I'll show myself out.

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Best thing ever: on MadMen last night Ted ordered an Old Spanish, a made-up drink from 30 Rock. Red wine, tonic water & olives for everyone!

haha what

was wondering wtf an Old Spanish was tbh

http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-mad-men-writers-are-working-on-a-show-about-nasa-in-the-60s

YES!