"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

They've never had a scene together in the whole series.

Also re: Charlotte's memory - she seemed to be experiencing the kind of internal timejumps that Desmond/Minkowski were, and probably relived the Faraday memory...kind of like when you re-watch a movie from your childhood and are all "lol I didn't even know who Jack Black was back then".

"This scary man told me never to come back to this island, and i just realized that man was Jack Black!"

You watch a lot of Bob Roberts when you were a kid, Nickalicious?

Also, "better tell this little ginger girl cuidado" is a beautiful sentence.

Jin knows so much more english now! His use of "monster!" was quite awesome. I wonder how they'll get back to the island. I also want to hear more of the science-y background of how they first found the island.

Jin knows so much more english now!

This kind of bothered me, actually! I know he's been living with people who speak English almost exclusively, but it's still been only three months and he's understanding 90% of what people say to him and using words like "helicopter."

Well, if your only way off the island was riding in a helicopter, you'd probably make an effort to learn that word.

Smokemonster pulling off the guys arm was awesome.

I'd be very suprised if the island keeps time jumping after Locke pushes the frozen donkey wheel back on it's axis. It'd be a shame if the time-jumping stops before we get to the see the 4-toed statue again! Does this mean that the O6 don't actually need to come back to the island at all?

I'm really glad it looks like the O6 are going back to the island before the end of the season. Definitely terrified at the prospect of them finally dong some 'science'. Also dislike the idea that Jacob/Smokemonster/Christian are 'the island'.

What about all the religious themes being introduced this season: Locke's sacrifice, reincarnation...?

to be technical, smokey pulled off the guy, not the arm.

Locke's sacrifice, reincarnation...?

definitely pretty Jesus-y. roll back the stone and Locke will rise on the third day, he died so the rest could live. etc.

then again the show has kinda been like that since the beginning ... I mean jeez there's a character named Christian Shepherd

I mean jeez there's a character named Christian Shepherd

Haha I only just noticed that.

I think that's it for Charlotte, Daniel will try to save her and fail, it'll be like his big tragedy. They basically filled in her back story in about 30seconds and we'll see the childhood bit later through Daniel's eyes. Explains why she got so excited about seeing the Dharma polar bear as well.

I do hope we get more time jumping but I think they're more likely to be stuck somewhere around the peak of the Dharma Inititative. That's where some of the biggest gaps are. That would mean no Black Rock though :(

based on last nites ep, some advice for people (like me) who have not regularly tried to watch this show:

DO NOT TRY TO WATCH THIS SHOW! it is a very advanced-type show, in that it cannot be watched.

yeah, last night me and my girlfriend were talking about what it would be like if somebody was watching lost for the first time and watching this episode. Basically, there's no way you'd come close to understanding anything.

It's really just a 100 hour-long movie.

My daughter watched the first two seasons, skipped 3 and 4 when she went off to college and had less free time, and is now trying to catch up by watching from the beginning. She's in the middle of season 2, but is also watching current S5 episodes every Wednesday. Talk about timeslips and a lot of "wait, what?" moments.

I wonder what Claire is up to during all of this. Maybe she's hanging out with Walt and they're being creepy together! At least we don't have to hear her saying "My baby!" in her terrible accent.

btw, how many more episodes are there this season? I wonder what they'll end it on.

She's dead too! She and Christian appeared to Locke last season in Jacob's cabin.

I suppose Charlotte will appear in the cabin sometime this season.

You don't have to be dead to appear as a weird island apparition - Walt has been popping up all over the place.

Walt might be dead. In fact everyone might be dead. "This island is death"
I remember reading the writers have denied the purgatory scenario, but
they had a weird camera in the eye motif (life flashes before your eyes when you die) in the first season, so they probably considered it and changed their mind, but now maybe they're changing their mind agin.

This whole story takes place in Faraday's mind in a split second after he sees the news of the plane crash, and none of it's actually true.

yeah the last episode will end with faraday pulling a sheet of paper out of his typewriter and setting it on top of a large pile and as the cliffhanger noise starts the camera will zoom in on the first page which says "Screenplay for "Lost" by Daniel Faraday".

ugh ugh ugh no

Smokey bit was exactly like this:

(skip to 40 seconds in)

"I'm still here... come and help me..."

Yeah I wasn't too impressed with them not bothering to get all of them back. Still at least whiney Kate's been left out.

xp haha my husband is totally convinced that sort of thing is going to happen and I'm going to top myself at the sheer injustice of it all

xp

Camera pans out, and we see that island is in a snowglobe on Carles Widmore's desk

FADE OUT

Isnt there a dude here who makes excellent animated gifs drunkenly? please animate these scenarios!

Just watched this, one of the better ones this season so far! Fast pace, me likes.

- Sawyer had a nose bleed, did I catch that right? If so, why?

- How exactly is Faraday someone Charlotte knows from her past? How could he be the one who once told her to never come back? Does she somehow 'remember' him trying to save her all along?

btw, how many more episodes are there this season? I wonder what they'll end it on.

11 or 12 more to go, I think. Funny--upthread we were speculating that the season would end with Locke turning the donkey wheel & the O6 returning--but things are moving a lot faster now. I think we'll end the season with a shot of the 4 toed statue fully intact.

yeah the last episode will end with faraday pulling a sheet of paper out of his typewriter and setting it on top of a large pile and as the cliffhanger noise starts the camera will zoom in on the first page which says "Screenplay for "Lost" by Daniel Faraday".

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lolst

the old dude was you think was pretty frissons-inducing

Obviously they never had Desmond and Ben in the same scene before because you can't put all the charisma on the show on camera at once

i will be hell of mad if it all turns out to be 1) hurley being crazy 2) theyre all dead

i will also be disappointed if ben doesnt give a 3-4 minute extended hammy monologue explaining the island

"what's the island, jack? what is the island? what is.... time?"

there is no way they are going to pull some hack meta ending like that at this point; that's the sort of thing that was "whoa WTF" when St. Elsewhere did it but has not been anything but a cop out since.

Well, shit...thanks for blowing the end of St. Elsewhere for me!

right!?

Does Ben even know who Desmond is?

I assume he does because Juliet knew who Des was, plus the Others were probably monitoring him in the Swan through the Pearl hatch. Also they stole his Elizabeth boat.

Ben and Des have had exactly one scene together where they didn't speak to each other at all - the one at the start of season 4 when Des comes back to tell the castaways about Not Penny's Boat and Jack tries to kill Locke.

i will be hell of mad if it all turns out to be 1) hurley being crazy 2) theyre all dead

Producers have said that neither of these will happen. Island is also not a snowglobe. :)

Still leaves the "Faraday is Stephen J Cannell" theory wide open.

yeah but i think the thing is this is a memory like the sudden "thing that daniel told me outside the hatch" desmond memory, where obv daniel has broken the rules and broken into desmonds past timestream or whatever. for whatever unstuck in time reason, daniel is able to change the past/future in some ways (although it looks like this one doesn't work out for him so well.)

Maybe this is why Desmond is special? He's the only one so far who has correctly remembered meeting a time-jumper.

Everybody else just don't seem to remember meeting them - no indication that Widmore remembered meeting Faraday (or Ethan meeting Locke, Danielle meeting Jin). Charlotte only remembers Daniel after her brain has started time-jumping through her past. Also the first time Daniel and Desmond met, Daniel himself didn't remember meeting Des in 1996 until he looked through his notebook. Maybe the island wipes people's memories after the time-jumpers been gone for a while.

"what's the island, jack? what is the island? what is.... time?"

lol, yeah this needs to happen.

"when a newborn baby cries jack.....THAT'S the island. the first beer after a hard day thatching a roof at your grandma's house in Kentucky, THAT'S the island. the SMELL of freshly cut grass! the first cuckoo!"

i think guy playing ben is just the right actor for a speech like that

loved it when Ben slammed the brakes on the van to have a go at Sun and Jack as if they were his two mischeivous kids. "Right that's it, I'm turning around!"

yeah I was thinking a sort of "wrap up the series" speech. you know, we laughed, we cried, but we were always LOST.

Yeah I wasn't too impressed with them not bothering to get all of them back. Still at least whiney Kate's been left out.

It was hinted in the second episode that they have a fairly short window of opportunity - like the magic time door back to the Island will close at some point. So they can get Sun, Jack and Desmond back then and sort out the others later. Although Desmond will have to be sent back kicking and screaming - is he part of the plan or is it just the O6? I think if anyone has a big interest in getting him back to the island it's Daniel.

My favourite bit of this episode was Ben flipping out at Jack and Sun and doing his "you don't fucking appreciate all I've done for you, you ungrateful bastards!" flounce.

My favourite bit of this episode was Ben flipping out at Jack and Sun and doing his "you don't fucking appreciate all I've done for you, you ungrateful bastards!" flounce.

this. :D

I wanna see what Des will say to Ms. Hawking - he totally recognized her.

srsly tho why the fuck are they in a church?

the island wants it

should've all met up at Hooters