He kinda went for the Hollywood ending huh. (JOKES)
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
I agree with forks, not super difficult to follow overall. But of course the profusion of details and the repeated events mean that there's probably plenty to decipher.
Basically a love letter to tape, I guess?
And the animation from Kris' old job had to be his test renders for A Topiary right? Any confirmation on that?
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
Please someone else post about this movie tonight before I start writing some 10000 word essay about my THEORIES
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
It is from a topiary, he confirmed that.
― gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 13 April 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
I think i can handle seeing this again.
― gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 13 April 2013 05:10 (eleven years ago) link
Cerulean Credit Union tho
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 06:22 (eleven years ago) link
this sounds amazing, I have no idea when and how I am going to be able to view this but I sure hope it is sooner than later (not likely)
― que sera sriracha (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 April 2013 06:32 (eleven years ago) link
at the latest you can snag the digital download on May 7th.
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 06:34 (eleven years ago) link
I want to see it in the theater. There's a screening near me on May 10.
http://erbpfilm.com/film/upstreamcolor#screenings
http://www.walkerart.org/calendar/2013/upstream-color
IZ DED
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Saturday, 13 April 2013 07:43 (eleven years ago) link
this is so teal and orange
the whole thing turned on the brutal exploitation and torture of a woman so maybe avoid if that's gonna not set well with you
:|
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Saturday, 13 April 2013 07:48 (eleven years ago) link
just bought tickets for the Sundance London screening. extremely excited. anyone else who's interested over here had better hurry up - two of the three days are sold out
― delete (imago), Saturday, 13 April 2013 09:13 (eleven years ago) link
Carruth appears to be having a moment.
― gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 13 April 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
hoo, this movie
reaching for the cosmic with Thoreau and piggies
I wasn't remotely bored, but I got nuthin otherwise
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
re body horror, more sci-fi to me, but "Cronenberg througha Malick strainer" zipped through my mind.
if either wanted to be baffling, that is.
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
I liked it a lot!
― Simon H., Thursday, 18 April 2013 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno about this one
(i didnt really know about primer either)
― zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 19 April 2013 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
kind of a bunch of "hogwash" if u ask me
― zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 19 April 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
i got "love story" much more strongly than "horror" or scifi from this
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
"tortured woman must rebuild her shattered life" trope as a way to kick off a story.
this is exactly how id say it also - sure it's disturbing on screen but its essentially a stand-in for any past trauma imo
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:55 (eleven years ago) link
i dont think i get the field sound recording scenes
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
there's a lot of stuff in this film i'm not sure i "got" in the sense that I could explain it to someone but very much in the Lynchian sense where it makes logical sense within the body of the film and I don't really care about it cohering outside of the narrative setting of the film
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 20 April 2013 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I never felt very compelled to figure out Primer but I was happy to vibe to it. Hope this is similar.
― ryan, Saturday, 20 April 2013 04:40 (eleven years ago) link
it's way more vibey than Primer. Primer definitely rewards untangling of its gimmick; this can be grokked on the first watch, and the puzzle-hunt details really are just details
― fucking Telstra (silby), Saturday, 20 April 2013 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I didn't feel confused about anything here bar a couple of details.
― Simon H., Saturday, 20 April 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
a good non-spoiler tip i think is to just take everything completely literally
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 April 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
this movie was great -- i saw it last weekend but didn't realize there was a thread. cronenberg-via-malick is appropriate, i really liked it. i think after i saw it i had a lot of things to say about rituals and people's habits and worms and plants, but it's all gone now. that's probably for the best. i liked this movie a lot.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Saturday, 20 April 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
i should see this maybe? it's playing here, shockingly.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 20 April 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
you should see this, almost definitely. it's at worst a little disorienting and silly, at best you'll love it.nobody else vibed the philip k dick comparison?
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 20 April 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
so good
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 21 April 2013 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
feel like the obliqueness of his ideas really keep ppl from talking about his filmmaking--the look of this, the editing, the sound editing were all insanely high quality.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 21 April 2013 04:58 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny, he's been pretty open in discussing this but the sampler character is still such a major monkeywrench to me. i think everything baffling about this film ties to that character in one way or another.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 21 April 2013 05:00 (eleven years ago) link
It's simple, the Sampler controls the people through their bonded pigs by playing them his environmental field recordings
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 21 April 2013 08:33 (eleven years ago) link
I was really impressed w/ Carruth's score; don't remember taking note of the music (was there any?) in Primer.
― Simon H., Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
there was music in primer but he's gotten better. i'd need to double check but i thought there was a bit toward the very end of this that was a lot like the music at the very end of primer
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 21 April 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
IFC is selling the score on vinyl
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 April 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
so I thought this was...something. really looking forward to seeing it again but this first viewing left me feeling rather aloof from it all. but maybe I was just tired.
I think part of my failure to engage was due to not really feeling the visual style of the film. even the shots with a bit more visual flair felt a little flat to me--but again that maybe ties back into feeling like the movie was at arm's length to me.
― ryan, Saturday, 27 April 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
Also uh SPOILER but.....
that piglet at the end was her "baby" wasn't it?
― ryan, Saturday, 27 April 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
Was there some indication that it came from a new litter from "her" pig, is that what you're saying? If so, I missed it. Just seemed like it was probably a random piglet from the time after the victims took over the farm.
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Saturday, 27 April 2013 04:14 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't notice any explicit connection but pondering that final image and the bit about pregnancy earlier it certainly "felt" like that. obviously that's a shot in the dark!
― ryan, Saturday, 27 April 2013 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
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so tired of people asking this question after films
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 April 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
well the first litter of piglets that her pig gave birth to were all drowned but that doesn't mean it couldn't be from a new litter.
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Saturday, 27 April 2013 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
saw this. look after your spirit pig.
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
also you must kill the one within who reduces all of Nature's vast system to mere...music *spits*
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
good advice xp
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
wasn't entirely sure about this. mostly looked and felt like a honda commercial, which detracted from the (interesting) ideas. dialogue, what there was of it, felt a bit cod at times. I think the most lucid observations were about human relationships - putting it closest to a romance, as said above
but I'm glad they finally killed the nefarious blue stuff cycle that was helping that dastardly thief. and I'm glad they killed whatever damaging cycle of personal emotion it stood for in metaphor.
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
the field recording bits were amazing. could have watched 2 hours of that very happily.
but...but he is REDUCING it, see, turning it to UGLY MUSIC with his HUMAN BOX
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
pfah
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
man where are you getting this MUSIC < NATURE, FOOLISH HUMAN stuff from? I didn't have that take-away at all.
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
dunno, trying to rationalise the purpose of the field-recording guy. a guy who records and stores the stuff of life in his giant pen/his music box, inert and expendable, and sometimes chucks it off a bridge. he perpetuates the cycle of striving that brings damage to the main characters. if only he could *embrace* his pig and his sounds. yo.
actually the music he did make with his downtuned scraping noises was really cool. wanted more of it.
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
I followed him on twitter when he started leaking all sorts of unreleased stuff. Now he seems to be having some sort of breakdown. He's currently quoting lyrics from the new Taylor Swift.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
what's his twitter handle? i searched and did not find anything that looked like the right one.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
he has taken over the upstream color account
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
With you I serve. pic.twitter.com/2Th5PvOGOO— Upstream Color (@UpstreamColor) July 29, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
he's going on about a mouse in his house?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link
he does not see to be doing well
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
yeah not even saying this to be make him seem more sympathetic or anything but he seems to have either really cracked or is doing an excellent job of making it seem that way
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link
He’s another good example of the sort of person whose main outlet is seeking attention and is prone to sudden reversals of favor in relationships and a propensity to feeling persecuted.
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 30 July 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link
Lol.
Trying to picture Hitchcock being kicked off as director after an 'incident' and acting out on his own twitter.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 July 2020 08:53 (three years ago) link
the literal only upside of this is finding out that Seimetz has a new movie and it looks sick
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/07/amy-seimetz-abuse-allegations-shane-carruth-1234576617
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link
it seems like she's hooked in with Benson/Moorhead and possibly the Coatwolf people now which is neat to me
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link
and as others mentioned I can't recommend Girlfriend Experience s1, which she co-wrote/directed with Lodge Kerrigan, highly enough. (fair warning that Carruth briefly cameos as...a dead-eyed psychotic sex pest :/)
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link
Go with what you know.
Anyway all these years I've heard 'these films are incredible, you've got to see them' and thought "Okay one day" but I did hear a very indirect rumor a couple of years ago via a Twitter friend that he was at the least pretty shitty and thought "Hm, maybe not." After all these past few days I shrugged and finally just read the Wikipedia summaries and hopefully I won't think of the guy much again. Life's too short.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link
I screened Upstream Color to/with different friends and the reactions were always delightful. no ugliness on Carruth's part will diminish the specialness of those experiences. but as brad said the nature of the situation and the fact that the movie is almost entirely an intimate Carruth/Seimetz two-hander makes a rewatch very difficult to imagine. and certainly I would never again be an evangelist for it as I was then even if I'm more flexible on the art/artist issue than some/most.
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link
yes it's truly an amazing film. it's too bad it's tainted now due to his fucking shitty behaviour.
― akm, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
Anyway
Shane Carruth, the director of independent films “Upstream Color” and “Primer,” was arrested last week at the home of his ex-girlfriend on allegations of domestic assault. https://t.co/6kCVq1sRgd pic.twitter.com/oFfT6TF2rH— Variety (@Variety) January 19, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 23:49 (two years ago) link
Ugh!! This guy is SO awful — makes me wonder how he made it as far as he did.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 January 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link
being awful probably helped 🤮
― cowboy bopeep (cat), Thursday, 20 January 2022 15:44 (two years ago) link
So unusual for awful people to be successful in film.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 January 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link
valuable insight jimbeaux
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 January 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link
xp you have a pretty rangey definition of “successful in film”
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 January 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link
It doesn't ALWAYS hold true, but given this and several other recently documented cases, there's definitely reason to be, shall we say, hesitant about men whose art involves 'the brutal exploitation and torture of a woman', as Forks put it way upthread long before anyone suspected a thing about him. Waving those red flags where everyone can see 'em
― imago, Thursday, 20 January 2022 16:31 (two years ago) link
xp Yeah, I stretched it for purposes of the joke, but otoh Primer is still pretty fucking good.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 January 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link