"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

I thought what happened is that they went down in the hole and when they came out they were either being controlled by smokey or where doppelgangers so Danielle shot em

*were

so I think somebody basically laid this all out upthread but the first time we see Faraday he's watching the crash on TV and crying ... I think that's supposed to be like his umpteenth time living through that moment and he knows no matter how far back he travels, tries to warn Charlotte, change this change that he can't stop the plane from crashing so he knows they're gonna go to the island and she's gonna die. that's how he knows all the time travel rules, been jumping around trying to keep charlotte from dying (I do think she's done for good btw, seemed like her backstory pretty much got wrapped up)

Yeah, you're probably right, they did pretty much say everything that needed to be said, I guess. Too bad we never got that flashback ep she was supposed to have last year that got cut due to the strike. Man, they BETTER cut us out of a Miles episode.. oh who am I kidding.

I know the boyfriend told her, she referred to it as a security system to the 815ers in the first season. ("Its purpose is that of any security system; to protect something.") What I mean, that's why she refers to it as that, because he told her/he knows - she didn't come up with it from nowhere.

dmr: Good theory! You could very well be right.

Is that the first time we've seen where Smokey comes from?

we've seen him come out of holes in the ground but yeah was that "The Temple"? I don't think we've seen that before. I guess that's what he's protecting?

that scene where the well turned into a rope in the dirt was pretty sweet

but did you see any of the kids kill someone with their feet, a dishwasher, or an IV?

it wasn't a dishwasher, he killed them with KNIVES!

the reason locke had to die was because he promised not to bring sun back to the island right

I loved Ben's "I told you he didn't come to see me. I went to see him." I didn't lie Jack--you just stoopid.

So did Ben kill Locke or just steal the ring?

WANKERS PUTTING LOST TORRENTS UP THAT DEMAND A PASSWORD BEFORE YOU CAN WATCH THEM WHICH YOU NEED TO DO SOME BULLSHIT SPAM SURVEY TO GET: YOU ARE ABSOLUTE SCUM

I think the real french guys died in the hole and Smokey assumed their bodies (see Yemi, still on the fence about Christian Shepherd [ps nice burn on Locke, not helping him up])

oops I neglected to read far enough down, sorry dmr!

at first i thought the arm time-traveled because sun's foot was too close to it but then was like 'oh they just traveled like 2 weeks.' bummer.

why the hell is Christian Shepherd some kind of island public affairs representative now? is he infected by smokey too?

maybe it wasn't really him ;)

He and Smoke are 2 manifestations of the same thing, the island itself.

So Sun, Jack, and Ben driving around LA for 45 minutes would have been another perfect chance for characters to lay out a bunch of details and communicate with each other about what's happening. Instead Ben just freaks out, hints at a bunch of stuff, and the other two stare at him and ask no follow up questions. Good job.

what about jacob? is he the island too?

so when Locke jumps to the real world can he walk? his leg is nasty broken and he's supposed to paralyzed off the island

maybe he kills himself due to his meaningless off island life

maybe he goes back to work at the box factory

what about jacob? is he the island too?

I think so, but it's just a guess.

Last night I was thinking Locke would have internal injuries from the fall, and eventually die from them. I wonder if he'll pop up in Tunisia or somewhere else.

also is the wheel thing fucked up cos ben did it, but locke basically fixes it again. is this the end of the time jumps?

i like the way christian said "you just have to give it a little push" and then locke PULLED the wheel

Don't know if this was upthread but my guess is that the island is going to stop skipping now and the kids upstairs (Sawyer etc) have been stuck in whatever time it was at that moment. Let's hope it's mid70s and we'll see young Charlotte, Ben, etc!

Ha yeah, good catch with the pull vs. push! I did think that was an awkward shot, it must've been intentional.

The revelation that Ben wasn't supposed to move the island is a pretty big deal - the question is did he realize it and was just manipulating Locke? This season seems to be pushing Ben in a "Good" direction, even if he's just as much of a liar and manipulator as ever. Of course this ignores the Widmore revenge scheme, but his defense of Jack and seemingly earnest protest this episode...

yeah i thought it was strange that he was on the side where it would have been counter-clockwise if he'd pushed. maybe counter-clockwise = jump back in time and clockwise = forward, so when the wheel was shaking back and forth that's why they were jumping between future and past? dunno.

anyway i think maybe the pull will give them one last jump back to present maybe?

I thought the geronimo jackson mention was really awkward and forced. I kind of don't like it when the show does that, it seems overly written, too telegraphed, too injokey sometimes.

yah i thought the same w/wobbly wheel pushed/pulled maybe fixed - def something along those lines

lol this show has gotten ridiculous & i still love it

where u been?

my friend thinks they are going to "lose" a lot of people next week when they start talking science. as in, people will become v v upset w/ the show but still watch it anyway bc you can't not watch it.

talkin' science like Galileo dropped the orange?

more like cosby droppin babies tbh

Rousseau says in Season 1 that her crew had been on the island for two months before the sickness took hold and that she gave birth three days after killing Robert. If they washed ashore in November 1988, then Alex would've only been 15 when we knew her.

that arm didnt look 2 months old imo

finally found all the parts on youtube this time!

good smokemonster action but i guess that's all we'll see of it this season.

wonder where Locke's been zapped to (somewhere different to Ben i'm guessing...altho might be cool if the Saharan location represents the exact opposite position of the island in the world...then again if the island has moved that might be different now). the other thing about the donkey wheel scene is that Locke could get down there on a well rope but previously Ben and Locke had to take a long slow descent down in the lift with it seeming much deeper underground than a well base could be. oh WELL...

Why does Faraday say Desmond can fix everything right before Charlotte dies. How can he fix everything if she dies?

and Christian must be a ghost if he cant help Locke up

maybe he just has no upper body strength

dude was sweating just holding up that lantern

Maybe he's just a dick.

def a dick - maybe not just tho

Dear Dr. Brown,
On the night that I go back in time at 1:30 A.M., you will be shot by terrorists.
Please take whatever precautions are necessary to prevent this terrible disaster.
Your Friend,
Marty

Next episode will reveal Charlotte has worn a bulletproof vest.
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Also, it's been established ghosts/zombies can still move shit. Mr. Eko can move chess pieces no problem right? Dude is just lazy.

i think Hurley was moving the other pieces himself but thinking Eko was doing it.

But that would mean Hurley is crazy!!?

it's either him or me

Why does Faraday say Desmond can fix everything right before Charlotte dies. How can he fix everything if she dies?

maybe he knew charlotte would die and that's why he sent desmond back before she even showed symptoms.

explains why daniels so tweaked out all the time - dude is just crazy stressd and sad from always trying to save his girl from death

Kind of sucks for Charlotte that it took her so long to remember what Daniel told her.

explains why daniels so tweaked out all the time

That and the fact that everything we've seen has been, from his perspective, like 3 days since he arrived on the island.

What's the deal with Daniel bein' all up in Charlotte's youth and then him being in her present and not knowing it?! He's got a really weird relationship dynamic! I wish a physicist from the future past would come and fall in love with me as a youngster! Sounds very Time Traveler's Wife-ish.