MAD MEN on AMC - Season 6

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I felt it was a bit of a stretch that Betty's new man would fancy such a young looking person

this is a guy who perved out on pregnant Betty so I dunno, him being into it seemed more natural than Betty being into some rape-play

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

the bobby swapping in this series is becoming hilarious

I hope they start doing it mid-episode

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, April 8, 2013 2:52 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They should do it mid-shot. Have another actor tap "Bobby" on the shoulder and switch places.

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

I mostly felt Betty's rape thing was an ill-advised joke, but I suppose they were trying to tell us she's insane.

Betty in the city had a bit of a fanciful cartoonish element to it, like a kind of unlikely and brief subplot.

I guess that storyline is reminding us that Betty is a child herself and needs children as friends, yet again!

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

the bobby swapping in this series is becoming hilarious

?? Mason Vale Cotton is still Bobby:
http://instagram.com/p/X01y1_HrCy

jaymc, Monday, 8 April 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

The dialogue in this episode may have been the most stilted and heavy-handed since the pilot.
Don's reactions during his failing pitch were also out of character.

I hope the rest of the season isn't like this.

DavidM, Monday, 8 April 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

idk, Don didn't seem out of character inamuch as Hawaii and the soldier really threw him for a loop, I mean, he seemed very much like that vaguely haunted Don of the first season reading his Frank O Hara and going to movies by himself

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I agree, plus his shitty pitch was evidence of further decline. Puking at a funeral was out of character too but this is Don as of now.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

agree about the heavy-handedness and clunkiness - Roger going to a shrink for no reason but MONOLOGUES!, Peggy's bearded boyfriend saying, "It's about time commerce was interrupted by this unjust war!" just in case you didn't get it yet. Or Betty's visit to the hippie squat from "Go Ask Alice". Half-expected someone to jump out the window high on acid thinking they could fly in that joint.

brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

guy carrying a stolen tv down the street was a little much

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

At first I thought she'd stumbled onto the East Village Motherfuckers, but they were far too placid.

Still holding out hope that one of the characters will run into John & Yoko on Bank St.

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah! It should have ended with Betty jamming with the Fugs.

brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

what if violin girl was a lost shagg

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

She sold her violin, but became...PATTY WATERS!

Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Roger going to a shrink for no reason but MONOLOGUES!

roger going to a shrink is perfectly in line with how things have been going for him. it's the same reason he did acid and was doing yoga naked at the end of s5, cos he's trying anything and everything to get a new perspective on his spoiled and increasingly boring existence.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

sure but it's also perfectly in line with the Sopranos already did that

brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

it's the same reason he did acid and was doing yoga naked

p sure that was him doing acid naked

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

guy carrying a stolen tv down the street was a little much

oh this got a lol from me

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

it's the same reason he did acid

he's not married to Jane anymore

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

xp me too, Shakey.

HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

Mad Men: Nothing happens, twice eighty times

HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

the other thing Betty-in-the-city reminded me of was Fritz the Cat lol

they shoulda gone all Bakshi live+animation combo for that haha

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

sure but it's also perfectly in line with the Sopranos already did that

yeah i mean it's true, roger sterling and tony soprano are almost identical as characters.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

btw couldn't help thinking peggy's bf is now like steve coogan with a tash

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

I was thinking Zappa

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Ditto re: Zappa

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean it's true, roger sterling and tony soprano are almost identical as characters.

mommy issues, serially infidelities, near psychopathic commitment to materialism/acquisition of wealth eh I can see some parallels

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

They're not at all identical - but they are both amoral, id-driven, selfish leaders who seem completely self-assured and acting on instinct, so it's the same premise to put them in a shrink's office and force them to give introspective monologues...

Besides it just feels familiar - especially as Weiner worked on The Sopranos. I can totally imagine the "you open doors and cross bridges there's nothing but more doors and bridges" coming from Tony's mouth.

brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

Sterling doesn't have a psychopathic commitment to materialism! He already had plenty to begin with. As he remarks at some point (s3e13?) he acted his whole career like he started a business, when really he inherited it. The Grey buyout and then the Lucky crisis were the things that made him hungry.

HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

and the hostility/attempts to personally engage the shrink

(which just made me think, why is he there if he doesn't want to be?)

xp

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

anyway Sopranos and Mad Men both have magical realist tendencies, which is where I think stuff like Betty visiting the hippie squat comes in. Have long thought that the oft-cited attention to detail/accuracy in Mad Men is a red herring that distracts from the show's more hyper-real stylistic efforts.

HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

what I mean is the show will end with baby Gene getting eaten by ants.

HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

Was wondering when people were going to find out that Don choked that woman to death in his own bedroom last season.

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

roger's shrink is the guy who hosted the lsd party. roger loves acid now, this is well-established

dysentery, typhoid, pneumonia & thyme (discreet), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

It's so easy to get acid now, you can get it anywhere.

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

what year would coke have hit Madison Avenue?

brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

roger's shrink is the guy who hosted the lsd party

ah

totally did not make this connection but makes sense

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

For me the tone of Roger's shrink trip is totally different to Tony Soprano's. I guess I just disagree it's out of character or tacked on, his dissatisfaction has been a theme for a good while now, but it's very different to Tony's.

I think Tony is painted as someone with genuine mental problems, whereas Roger is unhappy but also rambling narcissistically cos that's part of the appeal of the shrink for him.

Roger is enjoying the session as far as I see, Tony didn't seem to.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

what year are we at, '68/'69? definite subtle 70s vibes beginning to seep into the clothes and hair (lengthening sideburns eg)

cozen, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

the therapy sessions in the sopranos were a main structuring element and the therapist a major character. this isn't the case in mad men. plus psychotherapy in '67 was a very different beast.

dysentery, typhoid, pneumonia & thyme (discreet), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

I presumed it was New Year's Eve going into 1969.

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

At the turn from 67 into 68 right now. xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

literally no one cares about this but they neglected to CGI-out a big movie screen frame in the background on Waikiki beach that did not exist in 1967.

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's NYE '67

funny that they skipped "the summer of love"

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

Premier started in mid-Dec 1968. Skipped ahead 18 months or so from end of last season

Jaq, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

it is NOT mid-Dec 1968 wtf guys

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

ugh, nope sorry - 1967

Jaq, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

"world bids adieu to a violent year, city gets snowfall" was times headline new years day 1968. show skipped ahead just a few months.

balls, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

i got a vague nostalgic enjoyment seeing the Hawaii slideshow replete with upside down slide

also Don clicking past the wedding and the question without comment was classic Draper

he's such a douche but I think I love him kind of

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

~carousel~

dysentery, typhoid, pneumonia & thyme (discreet), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

betty going to st. marks totally reminded me of the xmas episode of my so called life w/ juliana hatfield


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