2008 Primaries Thread

In other words, re asking: where's the glass ceiling? she didn't face that, everyone made things easy for her, her accomplishments don't really count, and the condescending "i like how this is supposed to be a great feminist signifier"

DUDE, YOU ARE AN EXAMPLE OF THIS RIGHT NOW.

I want to see the studies that prove her parents were strong-willed. They sound interesting!

dude, you are becoming incoherent. i'm not condescending to hillary or saying her accomplishments don't count, i'm attacking what other people are projecting on her by reference to the actual facts of her life.

roxy, pls to read any book or article about hillary's early life

Your favorite Hershey bar is Krackel.

xpost her accomplishments don't really count

I think it would be more accurate to say that her accomplishment count for exactly what they are, and do not rate extra points for the fact that they are the accomplishments of a woman instead of a man.

I don't suppose you would be very happy with someone who praised HRC on these terms: "well, for a woman, you have to admit she's pretty capable" or conversely, "you have to allow HRC to fail more often than a man, because women always start a step behind men".

It is more satisfying all the way around to say, HRC is the best person who is running, and here is why...(insert accomplishments here).

nice one, xp

Gabbnebb, I look into your eyes and I see a K, a G, and a B.

is that what they teach in yr "college"?

Yes. You are exactly correct.

Rhetoric has long been a mainstay of curricula.

Actually, I was quoting what McCain said just now.

(About Putin, not gabbnebb.)

roxxxzakkk seems a little light on reading comprehension - i regard hersheys as more edible kitsch than food (i prefer lindt excellence dark) and krackel is the kitschiest.

Edible kitsch!

see also: gnawing on a gnarden gnome

http://schools.bcps.org/schools/chs/catonsville/history/images/edible-shoe.jpg

if hillary ends up winning the nomination, it's going to be quite interesting to see gabb's contortions to justify his support for her nomination.

In his autobio, Michael Medved, the right wing film critic, has a mildly creepy section devoted to his Yale friendship with Hillary, who he was obviously in lurve with. He describes her as the nicest, warmest, smartest girl in the world, who stays up all night comforting him when he feels depressed--and then Slick Willy shows up and sweeps her off her feet.

Good lord, that's a vision I didn't need.

he wanted to give her his vast, right-wing (CENSORED)

the mind boggles at the historical implications of it all if this coupling HAD actually come to pass ...

SO NOT GONNA HAPPEN indeed ...

http://www.fraterslibertas.com/Images/Radio/medvedralphie.jpg

if hillary ends up winning the nomination, it's going to be quite interesting to see gabb's contortions to justify his support for her nomination.

dude, no contortions of any kind are required. this is all about who i think has the best chance of winning. i've admitted a) i could be wrong about that, and b) i like hil just fine and am happy to support her (probably happier than i would to support edwards, but obviously not as happy to support O).

get that mo-ron off m thread, xp

Breaking News 7:01 PM ET:
A.P. and Television Networks Project Obama as Winner in South Carolina

CNN: a "strong" win; unable to project 2nd place (probably to keep people watching, but who knows?)

Edwards "running third"

Second place -- 'decline to state'

hurrrrraahhhhh

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/26/exit-polls-bill-clintons-effect/

COLUMBIA, S.C. - Barack Obama routed Hillary Rodham Clinton in the racially-charged South Carolina primary Saturday night, regaining campaign momentum in the prelude to a Feb. 5 coast-to-coast competition for more than 1,600 Democratic National Convention delegates.

Former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina was running third, a sharp setback in the state where he was born and scored a primary victory in his first presidential campaign four years ago.

The Associated Press made its call based on surveys of voters as they left the polls.

About half the voters were black, according to polling place interviews, and four out of five of them supported Obama. Black women turned out in particularly large numbers. Obama, the first-term Illinois senator, got a quarter of the white vote while Clinton and Edwards split the rest.

why do they gotta go with "racially-charged"? can't they just say "hotly contested" or something. idiots.

Ah, the news media--they didn't say anything until voting was over, and the moment it was they projected a winner based on exit polls. Good try guys!

Ah, the news media--they didn't say anything until voting was over, and the moment it was they projected a winner based on exit polls. Good try guys!

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Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida will endorse John McCain

One more ...

CNN and MSNBC are projecting that Hillary Rodham Clinton will come in second; John Edwards will be third.

lolz @ Obama's dig at Strom Thurmond - best zinger of his speech

Good speech.

Reagan zinger also funny

http://www.dudehisattva.com/coulterobama.jpg

THERE'S ALWAYS SAMOA!!!!

"Shortly after the polls closed, Mrs. Clinton flew to Tennessee to hold a campaign rally as she looked ahead to the next round of contests. Her concession came in the form of a brief statement: “We now turn our attention to the millions of Americans who will make their voices heard in Florida and the 22 states, as well as American Samoa, who will vote on Feb. 5.”

yeah, right, obama is gonna CREAM her in samoa.

Meanwhile, . . . ughhhhh . . .. This could kill Mittmentum in Florida.

No racial politics here.

Okay, once again, no racial politics here, right?

I really like Bill Clinton, but this is a bit much. . .

Barack Hussein Obama is actually an anagram for American Samoa

Ok, but it really is an anagram for "American Saboa Bush K"

Americkcan Bossa Hub