2k13 what's the worst enormous tech company?

amazon are a monopoly, dodge taxes, aren't even that cheap any more because they rely more on creaming off the wild west that is their marketplace (which is rife w/ incredibly suspicious sellers operating on an industrial scale) & bully even the biggest publishers for more margin incredibly blatantly. everything milo said too.

sorry mh guess I touched a nerve

idk, I think the "clever" people who have been stating that "if you think amazon is a company that sells books or even material objects, they are winning" might be on to something

not really I just find most ilm talk interminably repetitive

:)

amazon are prob the most objectively evil, which is funny cause everyone loves them

I did find a large poster in a Microsoft product box I was throwing out this week, though. Not going to wallpaper my cubicle with it anytime soon, though.

xpost

but iatee

they send me stuff

in the mail

idk, I think the "clever" people who have been stating that "if you think amazon is a company that sells books or even material objects, they are winning" might be on to something

― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:46 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amazon mostly sells books and material objects!

what are your opinions on the unibomber xp

imagining him on a unicycle and lol'ing sorry

lol vg

well unAbomber sent bombs in the mail which wasn't very nice

amazon send me books and cds and things that I want so

Amazon have been a company more about making the supply chain and delivery of products more efficient, sometimes at the expense of local stores. In that way, they're like a new Wal-Mart, but in their overall portfolio delivery of physical products is just one type of supply chain they've collapsed. Currently they're killing VMWare and other virtual server providers.

yeah but what % of their business do you think that represents

http://www.zdnet.com/amazons-aws-3-8-billion-revenue-in-2013-says-analyst-7000009461/

idk, 3,8 billion seems like not much to sneeze at

sorry for comma, I am not euro

its not the majority ill save you the time

iatee did amazon send u bombs in the mail

oh it has to be the majority to be relevant, I guess it's a hobby or something

idk, I think the "clever" people who have been stating that "if you think apple is a company that sells ipads or even material objects, they are winning" might be on to something

BECAUSE ITUNES SEE, so clever

I think focusing too much on how much money they currently make on this or that is misleading, like some of these things are decade-long investments

that they can all finance w/ their respective monopoly profits

i love all these companies, they are all so big and scary, make me feel like im livin in a stross novel

Bezos is pretty involved with this if you want to know his actual hobbies http://longnow.org/clock/

gmails big advantage was functionally unlimited storage - and all the pre google search engines were terrible the entire internet was made up of huge keyword paragraphs!

― lag∞n, Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:51 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

yah it was def a very big deal when it launched.. i think this was before the era of Big Terabyte and having like, a 200GB hard drive was still a Big Deal, and people were really starting to feel the squeeze from torrenting everything. so like, even though in practice nobody really took full advantage of the Unlimited Storage, the concept of it was very powerful

typo silby you put an extra l in

its funny because gmails web interface is literally worse than the catholic church, cant believe im locked in smh

amazon is a supply chain and logistics provider, it's just their #1 client is their own online store?

and xxxp that is the exact view people have typically had on Apple in the past, that they're a hardware company that uses the software wing to sell the product, or a software company that uses the hardware, depending on the writer and the decade the piece is written. Arguably they did buy a completely separate software company circa 2000ish to refresh/replace their own operations

I think focusing too much on how much money they currently make on this or that is misleading, like some of these things are decade-long investments

― iatee, Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:53 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amazon doesnt have any monopoly profits because they sell everything basically at cost, thats why they are doing so well w teh cloud why they drove every bookstore out of business because they dont make any money

the gmail storage size was a huge deal, so was gtalk when they rolled it out, gtalk still is a huge deal

ok I'm going to shut up now before I pull out some horrible-ass startup company lingo like "pivot" but the idea that companies have to be able to come up with new markets to remain fresh or pull interest to their existing products seems pretty key

they don't have any monopoly profits cause they choose not to exercise them not cause they don't have a monopoly

amazon is so nuts, the best thing is all the companies using seo tactics to create wikipedia books and nonsensical shirts based on stuff people search for in amazon

max otm on gtalk and gmail, although I always loved reader as much as those two and they've been fucking it up piece by piece ever since they took the social bits out

like thats a pretty good example of what the here and now profits aren't that important when your goals are 'becoming the only company left in america' xp

all these insane books and like actual objects being created as like material seo byproduct

what the = why the xp

i cant tell if amazon isnt profitable because they actually arent profitable or if they are just using funny tax loopholes to hide their income

anyone who thinks that iPod-era Apple is in any business other than making a profit selling hardware devices is kind of being too clever imo. Apple makes a whole lot of money selling hardware devices. App store and music revenues are a rounding error.

yah the 'democratization' of the retail-side is def a huge deal xp

they don't have any monopoly profits cause they choose not to exercise them not cause they don't have a monopoly

― iatee, Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:58 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when is amazon going to exercise their monopoly profits this has been going on for a while, i mean you cant actually become a monopoly in america its against the law, at some point you think they would start selling things for a profit if they were planning on it

what's nuts to me is the companies who use amazon for fulfillment and then undercut amazon by a little bit? like, how does that work

I ordered from some company advertising on amazon a while ago where their m.o. was pretty obviously "wait until amazon runs out of the product, accept orders, wait for amazon to get it back in stock, then order from amazon and send it to the customer." As in, their entire business model was to be an intermediary that accepted orders when amazon was out of stock

silby otm, in that Apple is having their cake and eating it, too. Video game consoles are the only major thing I can think of that are still sold at a loss, and people are starting to realize that's not viable in the new market.

i loved that thing where those two amazon fulfillment 'companies' [which i assume are like just some guy sitting in russia with a hotline to a warehouse somewhere] using pricing algorithms that ended up in this escalating algorithm war where each was selling some copy of a nonexistent nonsense wikipedia book for hundreds of thousands of dollars

i mean if thats not the most amazing thing to you idk

the most amazon thing

oh yeah, the pricing algorithm bots are ridiculous. I was kind of wondering if this holding pattern thing I witnessed is like algorithm bot 2.0, where it just watches most sold items for sell-out status

max may be referring to http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358

"five of this item left, order now"

bot orders five of them, accepts the next five orders through the site, then charges $10 for reshipping