"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

well, strictly, they aren't in 2005!

True. I suppose the whole time jumping thing is one of the only ways they could have reconciled the on/off island timelines without showing us Sawyer, Juliet and Locke hanging around on the island for three years. They might not ever actually live through 2006 and 2007. Either that or the 06 will return to 2005 island time.

iirc they haven't explained why they "have to go back" yet, but it seems to have been prompted by locke's death. and that's c. 2007. (why did ben not want to go back before then?)

but i do think that when they return, it will be to 2005.

i can see time just becoming less and less important in that when they do return to the island neither they nor we will really know when they are anymore (or where on Earth the island actually is). the snowglobe thing basically.

and Locke will become the smokemonster

i like miles/faraday/and especially charlotte, and in a fight between that crew and ben, i'd kind of side with team widmore.

but that's how this has to go down, right?

Not sure it will go down like that though - although Widmore's funding them and put them there I think their scientific objectives don't necessarily chime with whatever Widmore's shadowy aim is. And they've sort of broken with him in helping people get off the island in the first place.

I want some smokemonster this week.

oh well if you're SURE...

― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, February 9, 2009 12:42 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm just saying it's clearly a thing that's being teased and not that it's been forgotten about.

right but what i meant was it's gonna be hard convincing me that Locke having to die will make enough sense, the way things are going. i didn't mean they should've made it clearer how this will happen already.

so yeah, bring back pre-island Naomi

i feel like there is the possibility of a good explanation.

like, locke could go up to them and be like, "if you don't go back to the island everyone's going to be like this" and then he dies.

"this better work, i can only do it once"

It would be a great reveal if we got to see the Losties run into Locke back when he was Dharma's resident Jim Croce wannabe.

http://jforbes24.com/Terry-O

lol wow

find it weird that locke's talking about bringing the 06 back and sawyer's all sadface when to them the 06 have only been gone for what.. two days? although i also feel sorry that they're not getting any food or sleep through all the timejumping.

He's sadface because he thinks they've been blown up surely?

yeah but locke told him afterwards that they're fine so... i guess he's sadface about kate leaving.

I took a simpler interpretation, he was sad because he knew that since she chose leaving the island over staying with him (as she went over and over again during season 3) and that bringing her back is most certainly not what she wanted...

i feel like there is the possibility of a good explanation.

like, locke could go up to them and be like, "if you don't go back to the island everyone's going to be like this" and then he dies.

since she chose leaving the island over staying with him

not exactly as he was originally on the chopper when they left - more like he chose improving her chances of getting off the island rather than his own

Anyone else see the billboards that went up before the s5 premiere? They said "We all know Locke's dead, right?"

I haven't read much of yall's discussion since the last episode but I do have to say

-thank god the oceanic 6 are almost all together now - maybe they will be ready to get off by the next episode
-jin, we all knew he was going to live
-faraday, miles, charlotte - they are still cool this season.. especially faraday since we see so much of him

last episode was pretty good because I think it exhilarated things - the time limit that Ben has to get people back to the island is great writing :)

Wasn't there a whole thing in Season 4 where Sawyer didn't want to leave the island, that's why he went with Locke essentially, and tried to convince Kate to stay with him in New Otherton instead of going for the freighter people? Or am I confusing events...

Did we talk about this already in the skipped posts?...Did Widmore fund Daniel's time travel research because he remembered him from the island 50 years ago?

i mentioned it upthread - basically it's not that clear whether Widmore would remember him or not. They met only briefly and Dan never told the Others his, Miles or Charlotte's names so don't know whether it was coincidence or because Widmore knew who he was already.

so my mom just asked me "what's this Lost show you keep mentioning?"

I sent her Hurley's summary from S5E2, which really needs to be C&Pd here:

HURLEY: We lied, Ma!

CARMEN: What do you mean you lied?

HURLEY: (Voice cracking) All of us--the Oceanic Six, we lied about what happened after the crash.

CARMEN: And what did happen?

HURLEY: Okay. See, we did crash, but it was on this crazy island. And we waited for rescue, and there wasn't any rescue. And there was a smoke monster, and then there were other people on the island. We called them the Others, and they started attacking us. And we found some hatches, and there was a button you had to push every 108 minutes or... well, I was never really clear on that. But... the Others didn't have anything to do with the hatches. That was the DHARMA Initiative. The Others killed them, and now they're trying to kill us. And then we teamed up with the Others because some worse people were coming on a freighter. Desmond's girlfriend's father sent them to kill us. So we stole their helicopter and we flew it to their freighter, but it blew up. And we couldn't go back to the island because it disappeared, so then we crashed into the ocean, and we floated there for a while until a boat came and picked us up. And by then, there were six of us. That part was true. (Whispers) But the re...

(Hurley's voice breaks. He takes a second to regain composure.)

HURLEY: But the rest of the people... who were on the plane? They're still on that island.

(Carmen puts her hand on her son's wrist.)

CARMEN: I believe you. I don't understand you, but I believe you.

HURLEY: A lot of people died, ma. And now this bad stuff is happening because... well, um... (sighs) we shouldn't have lied. (sighs)

I heard someone say that Hurley's mom made a face when he mentioned the DHARMA Initiative, like maybe she'd heard of it--or that was where Cheech really went off to years ago.

I can picture Cheech & Marvin Candle chilling on the beach & like totally transcending time and space.

"man i have the craziest craving for salami and caviar!"

lol nice screen name Pillbox

why thank you, gleepglop

Ricky Apples in Little Italy.

― President Keyes, Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:56 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

ugh, I had a LOST dream last night. Anyway, according to my dream, the key to returning to the island is some kind of time-traveling haunted houseboat. Also, in the future Sayid becomes an overweight kids soccer coach. I also vaguely remember some kind of musical montage set to Oasis's Don't Look Back In Anger.

as in a soccer coach for overweight kids? or he becomes very overweight and then coaches kids' soccer?

hopefully both

Sayid was overweight, the kids looked like regular ~6 year olds

but did you see any of the kids kill someone with their feet, a dishwasher, or an IV?

Dude--was that Hurley's voice saying the numbers on the transmission?

It would be cool if 'Eloise' is not Farraday's mother, it's been obvious all season.

I'm going say that Charlotte was Radzinsky's daughter.

lol this show has gotten ridiculous & i still love it

So the "they ALL have to go back" thing is suddenly "lol not really"? Hmmm.

I think that's actually pretty awesome, if that's what happens! But next week's preview seems to imply it won't be.

Loved Ben's typical non-revealing handling of Desmond showing up. "I assume for the same reason you are!"

Was that really it for Charlotte? Hmm.

Oh yeah, that reminds me, it was cool to see Ben caught by surprise for once. (The fact that Eloise was Faraday's mother seemed to be news to him.)

whats up w/russos party losing it after going in smokeys hole

"The Sickness" as it turns out is extreme paranoia re: Smokey.

she wasnt paranoid - her man tried to shoot her - something happened to them in that hole

Yeah, that actually WAS a twist, he really did somehow become evil! Really wasn't expecting that, considering how crazy cakes Rousseau was. But since they DID become evil it does make sense she would be insanely paranoid! Considering the Black Smoke that day too, she must have given birth and had her baby stolen pretty soon afterwards.

Didn't they do the fake out acquiesce to empty gun thing in the first or second season of the show? It seemed really familiar.

(also explains how she knew it was a 'security system')

I'm looking forward to watching this thing all the way through in a couple of years. Imagine somebody turning this on for the first time tonight. "What the...fuck."

xpost, it was the boyfriend who called it the security system.