i just kicked a drunk woman out of my hotel for calling my gay coworker a fag

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"This thread lacks gravitas."

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"What makes you Saussure about that?"

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"I'm offended"

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"Dreier eyes mate"

surmounter, i think clowning hoos, who is a goofy but generally alright dude & good sport overall, is much better than smugly conspiring with him to decide what ppl you're so much fucking better at life than

-- and what, Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:44 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

again u fail to make sense. making fun of HOOS is NOT better than bitching someone out who uses the word "faggot" lightly. i do consider myself to be so much fucking better at life than someone who shouts faggot in public. and i wasn't conspiring with him. try thinking out your crappy comments, it might help.

hey, that's dani woodward!

ban Surmounter

castup ur so fucking pretentious you can't even see straight, ban yourself.

+1 bitchiness

surmounter -t auto /dev/tool/reactionary /mnt/killfile

who are you calling a dev

Who is this guy? WAHT?

i sometimes shout faggot in real life, but only in crowded movie theaters.

i'm really tired of arguing. can we like not anymore? what happened to discussing. u know? discussions?

i don't think anybody's really arguing!

discus has already been thrown :(

lol

all i know is my blood's boiling and there's a headache on the horizon, and it's JUST A FUCKING ANECDOTE

I THINK YOUR CAPS LOCK IS ON.

no that was the shift key. i never really use the caps lock.

This sounds like we need a poll, but ban tuomas first ok?

catsup dude i'm sorry i called you pretentious, that was mean. i hope you don't mind me not including all your p's. maybe we can be friends one day! =P

can you feel the love tonight

well u know i think after a certain amount of bitchiness it just feels like, where is this going? hell? i'd rather not

can't believe thread's so long already. way to go HOOS!!!!

haha

I want a badge lanyard embroidered with BIG HOOS AKA THE STEENDRIVER

i know it really is kindof catchy, though long

dude yr still wrong

xpost

Are you lot conversing in machine code?

mista hoobasteena, mista bob hoobasteena

i gets much hoos mail and i always resteen

i'll fuckin, i'll fuckin sew your HOOS closed and keep steenin you and steenin you

HAHAHAHA, thread is WON, lock now plz

stockholm syndrome, classic or dud?

b) beyond that, hate crime laws are unnecessary bcz judges & juries already have all the tools they need -- including intelligence & insight -- to determine whether an assault or vandalism or harrassment or murder has that extra tasty frisson of racism or homophobia, and punish it accordingly.

I disagree with this not for GFF's reasons, but just because it's patently false: judges and juries can't mete out extra punishment based on "that extra tasty frisson" unless it's stipulated in the law that they can, that this particular frisson is a legitimate aggravating factor. (If the maximum sentence for a crime is 5 years, judges don't usually have the discretion to hand down 10 based on any outside factor that's not put in their purview by the legislature!)

Posting way, way back to Tracer -- the reason I'm talking about these things in terms of prosecutorial misuse is that the kinds of situations you've outlined here aren't just fuzzy applications, they are (to my mind) completely outside the actual letter of the laws, which would seem to require that identity be the primary motivation for the action: obviously I don't disagree with you in the least that inferring this from any crime in which a racial epithet is uttered is completely fucked up, and such misuse could well outweigh any benefits the laws are designed to have.

open up your door, i walk straight in the HOOS
put your man down and put my steen in his mouth

This thread is like nabisco and Tracer trying to have a conversation on opposite sides of a room filled with autistic people on horse tranquilizers.

sounds better than some parties i've been to

throw in a buffet and i'd crash it for real

Whose justification do you mean?

It is my lack of legal knowledge justification. I find it pretty effective though! I mean it may be pretty obivious but I think most the knee-jerk against hate-crime legislations can be defused if you get people to sign on for "the system meant to protect us all equally doesn't do so."

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"Did somebody say horse tranquilizers?"

YOU MAY NOW CONSIDER ME THE HOOSALYPTIC ONE
AFTER THIS STEEN THERE IS NONE

We need to be able to change screen names again.

<I>judges don't usually have the discretion to hand down 10 based on any outside factor that's not put in their purview by the legislature</I>

What I'm about to say couldn't be any more off topic, but in light of some recent decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court, there is some question whether a judge is permitted to increase a sentence for a crime based upon the bias motivation for that crime, unless the motivation was first submitted to the jury and the jury made a finding on that bias motivation.

throw in a buffet and i'd crash it for real

-- gff, Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:00 PM

lol subtle

I LIKE MY HOOS STEEN-ER PINK

i wish one of my cats would eat this thread

I mean it may be pretty obivious but I think most the knee-jerk against hate-crime legislations can be defused if you get people to sign on for "the system meant to protect us all equally doesn't do so."

Mostly that just makes me wonder who's going to protect the homophobe's right to be a homophobe. Which, you know, seems like an important thing to protect.

hoosteen = "cute" variation on "Justin," right?

It's the Spanish pronounciation (and the name my mother raised me with, though my dad preferred Justin).