2008 Primaries Thread

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I also think Romney would make the least-objectionable President of the GOP contenders.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm actually hoping Guiliani wins Florida, just to fuck shit up more for the GOP.

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

by the way guys, if I'm coming off as aggro, it's just rhetorical aggro. I'm not angry at anybody here or anything. Apologies for the browbeating style.

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

if you're an independent, are you gonna vote for the pro-war anti-health care guy, or the anti-war pro-health care lady?

its unlikely independants would frame those issues that way (er would have the issues framed that way for them).

i am scared of mccain cuz i want a dem administration, but i am skeptical that he can get the nom.

artdamages, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm actually hoping Guiliani wins Florida, just to fuck shit up more for the GOP.

-- Mackro Mackro, Friday, January 25, 2008 7:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yes

artdamages, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Apologies for the browbeating style.

Well, you hurt my feelings. But I'll try to go on.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm actually hoping Guiliani wins Florida, just to fuck shit up more for the GOP.

-- Mackro Mackro, Friday, January 25, 2008 7:18 PM

totes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

hey, Daniel, did you notice the traffic on Calle Ocho the other day when McCain stopped by Versailles for his cortadito?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link

ALS, do you live in FL?

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, you hurt my feelings. But I'll try to go on.

Did I? Tracer said I was being nasty, so I was just clarifyin'

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Daniel was riffing on Hillary.

jaymc, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, I think Iran is going to hurt McCain more than Iraq will.

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Then again, Iran could potentially hurt any candidate. But Iran is an incredibly important issue here, at least for the election.

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

who's Iran?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Sofaraway

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

So, anyway, how many blue states will McCain win back from the 2004 election again?

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I want to know which are the more left-leaning women-hating states here.

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I am actually starting to think Mitt could be a more formidable opponent..

Regarding McCain, he's got a notoriously explosive temper and I wonder whether it wouldn't show up at some point. plus, honestly.. he's really old.. and I believe I saw some polling that voters would def. hesitate on that.

daria-g, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Daniel was riffing on Hillary.

I was, but my anemic sense of humor makes lines like that hard to understand. I need zing lessons.

hey, Daniel, did you notice the traffic on Calle Ocho the other day when McCain stopped by Versailles for his cortadito?

No, I missed it. He drew a big crowd? See, South Florida I would think is McCain Country (formally Giuliani Country), i.e., the GOP base here are mostly "Nat'l Security Republicans." It's upstate where I think McCain may have some trouble with "Social Conservative Republicans."

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I am actually starting to think Mitt could be a more formidable opponent...

No.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm dying to hear Obama's stance on Cuba. The he-is-an-A-rab meme will circulate again on AM radio.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Will Obama's Stance on Cuba Hurt? -- Time Online Edition, 2007

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

he found his sister soulja, hooray

Eppy, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Cynic.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not sure how it could hurt him - since the Dems are not contesting Florida this go round (it was stripped of all its delegates).

o. nate, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

(That's only for the primaries, I believe.)

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, that's what I meant - it won't hurt him in the primaries.

o. nate, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

His Sister Soulja killed Kennedy, how ironic.

Eppy, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

uh taking on florida cubans is not exactly jabbing someone to your left xps

gff, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

now now you're gonna make mickey kaus cry.

Eppy, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I just got an e-mail saying that it is likely Senator Kennedy will endorse a candidate if not tomorrow night than sometime next week. Any predictions?

Mr. Goodman, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoever he has to deal with most often in the cloakroom.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think that Obama's stance on Cuba qualifies as a sister souljah moment, even by the standards of that fucked up kaus article.

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

There's been a lot of speculation that Ted Kennedy will endorse Obama. He reportedly phoned Bill and told him to lay off Barack. I'd imagine Obama has some other big endorsements lined up between Saturday and the 5th... meanwhile, has anyone notable endorsed Clinton lately? I mean other politicians, not the Times.

Hatch, Friday, 25 January 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

There's been a lot of speculation that Ted Kennedy will endorse Obama. He reportedly phoned Bill and told him to lay off Barack. I'd imagine Obama has some other big endorsements lined up between Saturday and the 5th... meanwhile, has anyone notable endorsed Clinton lately? I mean other politicians, not the Times.

I should say that piece of information was sent to me by someone with close-ties to the Clinton campaign. Might be nothing ... but, you know.

Mr. Goodman, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr. Goodman, are you Mark Penn?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes

Mr. Goodman, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

And was your Clinton-tied source Karl Rove?

Hatch, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Why? You don't think his information is legit?

Mr. Goodman, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Karl's? No, I'm sure it's totally legit.

Hatch, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Even if you're getting it from a Clinton source, the rumor is still that it's gonna be Obama. Not that I think Ted Kennedy's endorsement will make a shred of difference outside possibly Massachusetts.

"Two sources say [Clinton has] directed a flood of calls the senator's way, with everyone from union leaders to his Massachusetts constituents scrambling to stop what Clinton's camp is worried could be an endorsement of Obama."

Hatch, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.93950.com/images/lobstr.jpg

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

How significant, really, is Ted Kennedy's endorsement, though?

jaymc, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

The only significance, aside from the possible "Barack is the first candidate who's inspired people like my brothers John and Bobby did," is that it might help him in Massachusetts. Obama is significantly behind in the polls, even with endorsements from Kerry and Deval Patrick.

Hatch, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2984/lobsterhl0.jpg

daria-g, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm guessing HRC will do well enough in the Northeast.. Obama may have to rely on the West Coast.

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

While I don't know if it will translate into votes in Massachusetts or elsewhere, I don't think that Teddy K.'s endorsement, being the quintessential elder establishment Dem, is insignificant -- at least inside the beltway.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, it's taken pretty much for granted that Hillary is favored by establishment Democrats, yes?

elmo argonaut, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

the Screaming Lobster of Hope should count on the Bay State's fishermen vote.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 25 January 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Sen. Kerry and Gov. Patrick have already endorsed Obama (and Teddy makes three!)

elmo argonaut, Friday, 25 January 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link


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