should there be more tipping or less tipping

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*knuckles forehead as if to salubrious yank*

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:58 (eleven years ago) link

Do i mean salubrious rob not ah well

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

I think tipping should be expanded as a social practice because it's a good way to get money out of rich people, like every interaction w/ them we can try and guilt them into tipping us, the whole economy can be constructed on guilting rich people into tipping / making them feel good about themselves for tipping

so I guess you give money to every homeless person who asks you, right?

:C (crüt), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

fyi the constant background hum of stress that tipping induces doesn't go away if you happened to have grown up here and grown up with tipping, it just never goes away, do I tip my surgeon???? should I???

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

If you're able to, then stiff the anaesthetist

b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

I almost never give money to beggars but very regularly give money to buskers. that actually seems like the norm in nyc. I've never not lived somewhere w/ a large homeless population and people def give way more often here than other places but you gotta do something to build up the guilt. the tipple down economy will have lots of busking.

iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

tipping is horrible because it makes you interact with the world through the filthy presence of money, almost all of your interactions are mediated thru money, that is you get to respond and send a message to other people by how much money you give them, instead of just paying a fixed price, fuck you america

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

otoh that's awesome, tipping is the only way you can give/receive money to/from virtual strangers without it being weird

tip jars should be everywhere

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

no its not

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

only virtual strangers who happen to work in the service industry

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

and only that small subset of service workers for whom its acceptable to tip

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

librarians are fucking awesome and I can't tip them! but it is mandatory to tip the shitty cab driver who took a 50% longer route than necessary

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

fuck you america

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

this is why everyone should have a tip jar and they should always put clever signs on them

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

"unlike cows we don't mind tipping"

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

"tippecanoe and me too"

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

no the answer is to get rid of all tip jars and also all forms of tipping

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

it makes you think 'is this person being nice to me just because they are nice or are they doing it because they expect a tip' which is just a terrible thought to have about every single person you interact with every day

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

"give me money if you like tupac"

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

(( btw you can tip me by paypalling me at y✧✧.dan✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧ ))

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

maybe you should interact w/ fewer strippers dan

iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

thinking about money is generally just an awful awful thing, money is an awful thing to think about

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

"i'm just really cool with you giving me money i promise i won't have an existential episode because of it"

#guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

I am uncertain if Americans have the spiritual fortitude to withstand being able to tell if their waiters are having a great day (spoiler - probably not)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

serious question do you tip your ETSY seller?? you know just paypal him a lil' extra

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

xp I mean many Americans, no need to insult an entire country when 51% will do.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

there is no such thing as a bad day in America

iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

when I am feeling the least bit down I just go outside and lay on the street made of pure gold for a lil' bit, like 5 mins or so, then I feel better

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

then someone tips you

iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

Kicks some gold dust into your face.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

gold dust woman is secretly a song about tipping

iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

I am uncertain if Americans have the spiritual fortitude to withstand being able to tell if their waiters are having a great day (spoiler - probably not)

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, February 1, 2013 9:08 AM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

have you ever been on yelp.com?

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

probably the #1 argument for abolishing tipping is yelp.com

乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

I'm going to start tipping in bitcoins

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

if we could tip ilxors w/ bitcoins for good posts, this site would improve dramatically

iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

or at least give them some of that sweet banner ad cashflow

iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

"tipping is the only way you can give/receive money to/from virtual strangers without it being weird"

nope nope, this is always weird. it makes every act of kindness or decency subject to market incentive while all parties have to conspire to pretend it doesn't. straight up just giving money to strangers by comparison is a breeze.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 1 February 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

is kickstarter really just a form of tipping

iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

i tip 17.5% in restaurants just cuz that's the math i like to do in my head.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 February 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

I want to get into a meeting with some venture capitalists and offer them t-shirts as return on their investment. "If you invest a quarter of a million dollars, you will receive this company t-shirt. If you invest one half of one million dollars, I will eat lunch with you and two of your friends."

that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 February 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

"c'mon. be a dude. it's kickstarter grandpa!"

that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 February 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

yah kickstarter is way closer to just straight up giving strangers money than tipping.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 1 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

esp if they don't end up actually giving you the t-shirt or having lunch with you.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 1 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

a fried of a friend was trying to turn his food truck into a restaurant on kickstarter. they were offering meals at the restaurant (at what would've been a hefty markup) as the return. put a business plan together and get some actual investors. hate kickstarter sometimes.

that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 February 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

in asia, tipping doesn't happen. and, in most places, service kinda sucks pretty bad. otoh, i have several friends who wait tables in america, and they make pretty good money for it, even when you factor in the rare dickwad who doesn't tip. and service in america tends to be way better than in, say, singapore, where they get (shitty) regular paychecks instead.

so, tipping - let's keep it.

if we could tip ilxors w/ bitcoins for good posts, this site would improve dramatically

they have this system at metafilter, and it goes a long way towards keeping things considered, civil and interesting

messiahwannabe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

whoa really how much money can you make

iatee, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link

if this catches on some nabisco type dude can make a career out of being a good message board poster

iatee, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

perhaps i misunderstood the meaning of "bitcoins" on mefi it's "favorites" and is basically nothing more than warm fuzzies, sorry for the confusion. still nothing like getting positive feedback! it's not entirely unlike tipping

messiahwannabe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:01 (eleven years ago) link

Bitcoins are an "actual" "currency"

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:32 (eleven years ago) link

You can use em to buy drugs on the internet

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:32 (eleven years ago) link


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