should there be more tipping or less tipping

i tip bartenders very well

LOL @ guilting rich people to tip. If only it were that easy, the entire economy would be a completely different story.

the longer it gets since the last time i waited tables, the more strangely unsettling it is when I find myself out to dinner with someone who waits tables for a living now. they get REAL SERIOUS about leaving a huge tip. and i usually tip 20-25% anyway but the telegraphed camaraderie of the whole act is kind of a weird thing to witness.

fwiw i work a (mostly) desk job that is (mostly) sales/project management and maybe two or three clients a year will give me $100 - $200 in an envelope at the end of their event. (This happened more like 6-7 times a year before the '08 crash)

Is there a tip jar out at establishments where they're not bringing food to your table, besides in New York? cuz that is sooooome bullshit.

Milo, tipping continues at around 10-15 % avg elsewhere ime despite yr assertion that it it would die a death in the US with the introduction of a decent minimum wage. Idk why 'let's be real' in this case translates to 'let's assert the opposite of the likely outcome'.

Would fewer people eat out, would they tip less, would servers clear less after tax, would cyborgs be developed to wait tables? Likely enough, except for the last one, but to the extent of the tumbleweeding of the industry? Nah.

Also with the whole 'absurdly low wage is the only way the job is worth keeping to the employer' is yknow a worrying argument imo, and i'm not sure the history of mankind or economics would support it tbh

Is there a tip jar out at establishments where they're not bringing food to your table, besides in New York? cuz that is sooooome bullshit.

― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 1, 2013 3:23 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are establishments where they bring food to your table with tip jars?

Saw that at a concession in a bingo parlour in Sarnia, Ontario: Pay $0.50 to the woman at a cash register, she gives you a styrofoam cup and points the way to the coffee pots, where you pour your own - and discover another cup optimistically labeled "TIPS...Thank You". It was empty.

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Is there a tip jar out at establishments where they're not bringing food to your table, besides in New York?

This is basically it, where I live. Cafes and lower end restaurants all have a tip jar on the counter. Ppl will chuck the change in it or a dollar or 2 if theyre feeling generous.

Our minimum wage is something like $16p/h and places that have been caught charging less, like $10/hr (the horror!) have been fined and legally forced to back pay the staff in question.

Is there a tip jar out at establishments where they're not bringing food to your table, besides in New York? cuz that is sooooome bullshit.

I see this often enough, e.g. at the Second Cup (Canadian version of Starbucks) in the nearest mall. I usually see coins in the cup but I don't think there's an expectation of an automatic cup.

"automatic tip"

not only that but the server actually pretends to care about your life and your personal well-being, before trying to upsell you on the 2-for-1 watermelon daiquiri margaritas and wouldn't you also like to try the deep fried cajun breadfood?

― 乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 00:39 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for fuck sake I go out to eat to talk to my friends and family - who I don't see anywhere near often enough - I don't want to waste that precious time being blethered at by some exuberantly tipfishing jack-in-the-box... I don't think I'd like America. ( continue, this is the end of the grumpy old man's ranting ).

tipping is not normal here in ireland or whatever, although the opportunity is always there and exceptional service deserves *something*

Tipping is normal here

Tipping is very normal in Ireland, in many but not all circumstances (I never tipped cabbies regularly until I got to London, and never got called up on it by anyone I was sharing a taxi with)

LOL @ guilting rich people to tip. If only it were that easy, the entire economy would be a completely different story.

Tipple down economics!

Feel like I rarely see people tipping in Ireland, and only ever in a restaurant. At Christmas I tipped the server in a pub (with table service), she seemed quite surprised.

When I'm in the US I feel under constant stress that I'm doing something wrong due to not knowing the tipping etiquette in whatever situation I'm in and can't search ILX for the answer due to no Internet, but I guess the system more or less works for those in it.

When I'm in the US I feel under constant stress that I'm doing something wrong due to not knowing the tipping etiquette in whatever situation I'm in

This. Not that that is anybody's problem but my own, I suppose, and any poor sod who I'm accidentally stiffing because I didn't know that I was supposed to tip them for unlocking the door to the room where my bags are stored, or whatever.

I find the "that's not necessary, sir" when I proffer a couple of paltry dollars to someone I'm not supposed to tip utterly excruciating, btw.

Tripadvisor article on tipping in ireland is p much otm

Wait is autumn almanac in ireland

i think AA was saying that he is in "ireland or whatever", i.e. not-America, like in the poll options.

when i went to New York like 10 years ago i didn't realise that you tipped on coffee when you were having it to-go and i still feel bad about it.

like, i could have guessed i guess that working a coffee machine involves enough skill that it counts as 'service', but at the time it didn't occur to me to tip when you're not eating in (unless you have somehow outstanding service, or a lot of change to get rid of).

Tipping is 15% if service is good or any coins that you wish to throw at the head of your server otherwise.

huh, for me 10% is normal but you have to round up, 12.5% sometimes the amount added to a bill, and i've only knowingly failed to tip once, because the waiter was patronisingly rude (i am totally happy with rude service when it's brusque and does not care about you).

(and i still don't know if i'm supposed to tip taxi/minicab drivers)

there's a whole giant thread for this iirc

no, really? tell me more.

Cant believe farrell's nicked my tipple down gag without even tipping his cap

when my gf visited ireland she apparently really surprised one of her waiters by tipping like it was something that never happened, and the waiter wouldn't stop thanking her

tho maybe it's cause she thought she was supposed to give an 18%+ tip? dmac when you say ppl tip there is it like a dollar or two

I tip prob about 12-5% but if rounding up to the nearest note or ten is more than this then i'll do that, but it varies by service (tips jar on coffee counter gets change, barber gets 15/12, if restaurant service/meal is good it's prob closer to 20%)

I find dublin/city staff are blase about it, rural staff a generous tip is def more of an unexpected bonus

Bah sorry darragh I shall give you 30% of my kudos received for the rest of the day (er, I'm hoping you're not dependant on that to keep the wolves from the door)

*knuckles forehead as if to salubrious yank*

Do i mean salubrious rob not ah well

I think tipping should be expanded as a social practice because it's a good way to get money out of rich people, like every interaction w/ them we can try and guilt them into tipping us, the whole economy can be constructed on guilting rich people into tipping / making them feel good about themselves for tipping

so I guess you give money to every homeless person who asks you, right?

fyi the constant background hum of stress that tipping induces doesn't go away if you happened to have grown up here and grown up with tipping, it just never goes away, do I tip my surgeon???? should I???

If you're able to, then stiff the anaesthetist

I almost never give money to beggars but very regularly give money to buskers. that actually seems like the norm in nyc. I've never not lived somewhere w/ a large homeless population and people def give way more often here than other places but you gotta do something to build up the guilt. the tipple down economy will have lots of busking.

tipping is horrible because it makes you interact with the world through the filthy presence of money, almost all of your interactions are mediated thru money, that is you get to respond and send a message to other people by how much money you give them, instead of just paying a fixed price, fuck you america

otoh that's awesome, tipping is the only way you can give/receive money to/from virtual strangers without it being weird

tip jars should be everywhere

no its not

only virtual strangers who happen to work in the service industry

and only that small subset of service workers for whom its acceptable to tip

librarians are fucking awesome and I can't tip them! but it is mandatory to tip the shitty cab driver who took a 50% longer route than necessary

fuck you america

this is why everyone should have a tip jar and they should always put clever signs on them

"unlike cows we don't mind tipping"

"tippecanoe and me too"

no the answer is to get rid of all tip jars and also all forms of tipping

it makes you think 'is this person being nice to me just because they are nice or are they doing it because they expect a tip' which is just a terrible thought to have about every single person you interact with every day

"give me money if you like tupac"

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