Voted 'blah blah' cos i've known a lot of servers over the years and if you know what you are doing and work the busy shifts you can clean up. Then again i don't have much experience outside of America so maybe it is way cooler to have a paycheck.
One of the things i value highly in life is leaving a good tip. I figure if you are going into a place of business where they tip, you should take care of the people serving you. I usually just ballpark 20% in my head (seems easier that way, $10 is 2 bucks, $20 is 4, etc.) and leave that or higher. Often i'll get a coffee and tip a dollar cos i make my coffee at home if i want to save money.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 1 February 2013 04:24 (eleven years ago) link
i tip bartenders very well
― buzza, Friday, 1 February 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
LOL @ guilting rich people to tip. If only it were that easy, the entire economy would be a completely different story.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 1 February 2013 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
the longer it gets since the last time i waited tables, the more strangely unsettling it is when I find myself out to dinner with someone who waits tables for a living now. they get REAL SERIOUS about leaving a huge tip. and i usually tip 20-25% anyway but the telegraphed camaraderie of the whole act is kind of a weird thing to witness.
fwiw i work a (mostly) desk job that is (mostly) sales/project management and maybe two or three clients a year will give me $100 - $200 in an envelope at the end of their event. (This happened more like 6-7 times a year before the '08 crash)
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 1 February 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
Is there a tip jar out at establishments where they're not bringing food to your table, besides in New York? cuz that is sooooome bullshit.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 February 2013 08:23 (eleven years ago) link
Milo, tipping continues at around 10-15 % avg elsewhere ime despite yr assertion that it it would die a death in the US with the introduction of a decent minimum wage. Idk why 'let's be real' in this case translates to 'let's assert the opposite of the likely outcome'.
Would fewer people eat out, would they tip less, would servers clear less after tax, would cyborgs be developed to wait tables? Likely enough, except for the last one, but to the extent of the tumbleweeding of the industry? Nah.
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 08:29 (eleven years ago) link
Also with the whole 'absurdly low wage is the only way the job is worth keeping to the employer' is yknow a worrying argument imo, and i'm not sure the history of mankind or economics would support it tbh
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 08:34 (eleven years ago) link
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 1, 2013 3:23 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there are establishments where they bring food to your table with tip jars?
― #guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 08:39 (eleven years ago) link
Saw that at a concession in a bingo parlour in Sarnia, Ontario: Pay $0.50 to the woman at a cash register, she gives you a styrofoam cup and points the way to the coffee pots, where you pour your own - and discover another cup optimistically labeled "TIPS...Thank You". It was empty.
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― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 1 February 2013 08:51 (eleven years ago) link
Is there a tip jar out at establishments where they're not bringing food to your table, besides in New York?
This is basically it, where I live. Cafes and lower end restaurants all have a tip jar on the counter. Ppl will chuck the change in it or a dollar or 2 if theyre feeling generous.
Our minimum wage is something like $16p/h and places that have been caught charging less, like $10/hr (the horror!) have been fined and legally forced to back pay the staff in question.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Friday, 1 February 2013 08:56 (eleven years ago) link
I see this often enough, e.g. at the Second Cup (Canadian version of Starbucks) in the nearest mall. I usually see coins in the cup but I don't think there's an expectation of an automatic cup.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 1 February 2013 08:57 (eleven years ago) link
"automatic tip"
not only that but the server actually pretends to care about your life and your personal well-being, before trying to upsell you on the 2-for-1 watermelon daiquiri margaritas and wouldn't you also like to try the deep fried cajun breadfood?
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 00:39 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
for fuck sake I go out to eat to talk to my friends and family - who I don't see anywhere near often enough - I don't want to waste that precious time being blethered at by some exuberantly tipfishing jack-in-the-box... I don't think I'd like America. ( continue, this is the end of the grumpy old man's ranting ).
― thomasintrouble, Friday, 1 February 2013 09:38 (eleven years ago) link
tipping is not normal here in ireland or whatever, although the opportunity is always there and exceptional service deserves *something*
― walloreinhart (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 February 2013 09:41 (eleven years ago) link
Tipping is normal here
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 09:51 (eleven years ago) link
Tipping is very normal in Ireland, in many but not all circumstances (I never tipped cabbies regularly until I got to London, and never got called up on it by anyone I was sharing a taxi with)
Tipple down economics!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 February 2013 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
Feel like I rarely see people tipping in Ireland, and only ever in a restaurant. At Christmas I tipped the server in a pub (with table service), she seemed quite surprised.
When I'm in the US I feel under constant stress that I'm doing something wrong due to not knowing the tipping etiquette in whatever situation I'm in and can't search ILX for the answer due to no Internet, but I guess the system more or less works for those in it.
― questino (seandalai), Friday, 1 February 2013 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
When I'm in the US I feel under constant stress that I'm doing something wrong due to not knowing the tipping etiquette in whatever situation I'm in
This. Not that that is anybody's problem but my own, I suppose, and any poor sod who I'm accidentally stiffing because I didn't know that I was supposed to tip them for unlocking the door to the room where my bags are stored, or whatever.
I find the "that's not necessary, sir" when I proffer a couple of paltry dollars to someone I'm not supposed to tip utterly excruciating, btw.
― Tim, Friday, 1 February 2013 10:37 (eleven years ago) link
Tripadvisor article on tipping in ireland is p much otm
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
Wait is autumn almanac in ireland
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
i think AA was saying that he is in "ireland or whatever", i.e. not-America, like in the poll options.
when i went to New York like 10 years ago i didn't realise that you tipped on coffee when you were having it to-go and i still feel bad about it.
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Friday, 1 February 2013 10:45 (eleven years ago) link
like, i could have guessed i guess that working a coffee machine involves enough skill that it counts as 'service', but at the time it didn't occur to me to tip when you're not eating in (unless you have somehow outstanding service, or a lot of change to get rid of).
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Friday, 1 February 2013 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
Tipping is 15% if service is good or any coins that you wish to throw at the head of your server otherwise.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 February 2013 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
huh, for me 10% is normal but you have to round up, 12.5% sometimes the amount added to a bill, and i've only knowingly failed to tip once, because the waiter was patronisingly rude (i am totally happy with rude service when it's brusque and does not care about you).
(and i still don't know if i'm supposed to tip taxi/minicab drivers)
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Friday, 1 February 2013 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
there's a whole giant thread for this iirc
― #guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
no, really? tell me more.
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
Cant believe farrell's nicked my tipple down gag without even tipping his cap
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
when my gf visited ireland she apparently really surprised one of her waiters by tipping like it was something that never happened, and the waiter wouldn't stop thanking her
― #guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:04 (eleven years ago) link
tho maybe it's cause she thought she was supposed to give an 18%+ tip? dmac when you say ppl tip there is it like a dollar or two
― #guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:05 (eleven years ago) link
I tip prob about 12-5% but if rounding up to the nearest note or ten is more than this then i'll do that, but it varies by service (tips jar on coffee counter gets change, barber gets 15/12, if restaurant service/meal is good it's prob closer to 20%)
I find dublin/city staff are blase about it, rural staff a generous tip is def more of an unexpected bonus
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:22 (eleven years ago) link
Bah sorry darragh I shall give you 30% of my kudos received for the rest of the day (er, I'm hoping you're not dependant on that to keep the wolves from the door)
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 February 2013 11:52 (eleven years ago) link
*knuckles forehead as if to salubrious yank*
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
Do i mean salubrious rob not ah well
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
I think tipping should be expanded as a social practice because it's a good way to get money out of rich people, like every interaction w/ them we can try and guilt them into tipping us, the whole economy can be constructed on guilting rich people into tipping / making them feel good about themselves for tipping
so I guess you give money to every homeless person who asks you, right?
― :C (crüt), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
fyi the constant background hum of stress that tipping induces doesn't go away if you happened to have grown up here and grown up with tipping, it just never goes away, do I tip my surgeon???? should I???
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
If you're able to, then stiff the anaesthetist
― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
I almost never give money to beggars but very regularly give money to buskers. that actually seems like the norm in nyc. I've never not lived somewhere w/ a large homeless population and people def give way more often here than other places but you gotta do something to build up the guilt. the tipple down economy will have lots of busking.
― iatee, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link
tipping is horrible because it makes you interact with the world through the filthy presence of money, almost all of your interactions are mediated thru money, that is you get to respond and send a message to other people by how much money you give them, instead of just paying a fixed price, fuck you america
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
otoh that's awesome, tipping is the only way you can give/receive money to/from virtual strangers without it being weird
tip jars should be everywhere
― #guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
no its not
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
only virtual strangers who happen to work in the service industry
and only that small subset of service workers for whom its acceptable to tip
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
librarians are fucking awesome and I can't tip them! but it is mandatory to tip the shitty cab driver who took a 50% longer route than necessary
fuck you america
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
this is why everyone should have a tip jar and they should always put clever signs on them
― #guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
"unlike cows we don't mind tipping"
"tippecanoe and me too"
― #guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
no the answer is to get rid of all tip jars and also all forms of tipping
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 February 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
it makes you think 'is this person being nice to me just because they are nice or are they doing it because they expect a tip' which is just a terrible thought to have about every single person you interact with every day
"give me money if you like tupac"
― #guy #guy fieri #poop #hallway (zachlyon), Friday, 1 February 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link