About time for this, I figure! Fifth season premiered yesterday.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
condragulations
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Quite right!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
this show is kind of fascinating in a "gender is all performance!" way - everyone congratulating each other (incl the judges) on how well they achieve some kind of archetypal female-ness
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
Okay come on, I KNOW I'm not the only person on here watching.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
I promise to start now.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
Marilyn Monroe should've been in the bottom. She didn't do anything.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah that was an epic flop. I like Ivy well enough but that made me go "Whuh?"
Jinkx, Alaska and Roxy were the best overall, but Jinkx just owned it period.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
I like Ivy too and I think she was lucky she didn't have to lipsynch against Lineysha. I didn't expect her to do so well (but her Celia Cruz was unforgiveable).
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
Deep clusterfuck, that. Also what WAS Detox thinking.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
um hi I just started watching season 5 online having never watched and omg I'm hooked
I'll be caught up in no time :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
Don't forget to watch Untucked, an essential part of this show!
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I just figured that out...gotta love these bitchy girls. MORE drag homework? *twists arm*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
Very good. Join us, join us...
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
Shanté, you stay!
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
Season 2 still the best so far, I think.
I just binge-rewatched season 3 over the weekend on Netflix and I might have to vote for that one. Then again I just like Raja a hell of a lot, so.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
Yes for Raja and Manila. But the rest, not so interesting. Yara-Sophia maybe...
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
It actually came down to the right final four I thought, Alexis was a character in her own right. But yeah Yara (Xara?) was next level.
I still haven't seen season four! For some stupid reason it's not on Netflix -- it was for about two seconds and then went away again without explanation. (Already know who won, obv., but I'd like to see it happen.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
Wait what!! Can't you watch it on logo online or something? We can't in Canada but I thought you could in the US.Season 4 was pretty good, although they tried to create too much unnecessary drama. But I'll let you see by yourself.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
You can see the Untucked episodes from season 4 on the site but not the main shows. Since you can buy all the shows from iTunes maybe they want to go that route? Who knows!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Makes sense. If RuPaul had a dollar everytime she mentions iTunes...
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
Hey, house payments are probably up there. (And I don't begrudge Ru ANY success and trappings.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
I don't either. At least she's very upfront and funny about it.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
Fun fact we learned during the All Stars season: Jujubee's real name is actually Airplane!
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
Hahaha yeah I remember thinking "Wait, what?"
I also love that Manila's real name is the none-more-Minnesota Karl Westerberg.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
Lol wow
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
Almost caught up on S5 now yay!
Every single time Alyssa glams up for the runway all I think is JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS JOAN COLLINS
I don't know why but I think I like Detox. Jinkx is great but I dunno if the unglam thing is going to hold out for her or not. I love her for it, but it could wear thin.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
I will say this, have started following her on FB -- win or lose she seems to be having a blast and is booked for other live appearances and things and more this year already, so I like to think of her as winning already!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
Meanwhile, it's a little surprising to see such a mostly white group at this point. Not that I think the show is biased, appears to be more luck of the draw season by season in terms of who survives.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
that little edie impersonation was fuckin awesome in the last ep. too bad her fashion totally sucks.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 28 February 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
I found s2 streaming on Amazon Prime, so yaaaay
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
Meantime:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/02/27/drag_race_grey_gardens_and_jinx_monsoon_why_the_queens_need_camp.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
I do have to quibble with some of the assertions there -- while Sharon's success in 4 is great, in 3 Raja was more than a little disruptive herself -- as was Manila really; if anything Alexis was the one let go at the end precisely for being full pageant.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't watched all the seasons, but I don't get the impression that they are only seeking pageant or necessarily favoring that. And while I noticed the lack of "camp history" in the S5 girls, isn't there an argument that maybe a lot of queens are trying to let go of that, like that cliche of teens not wanting to know about older music? I mean, I'm bummed that they don't know who Little Edie is but maybe when they see Jinkxs win they go find out. And it doesn't mean they're any more terrible for what they don't know of their history. If anything, it's kind of fabulous that they all came to that same place *without* it. I dunno. That article seemed a little too buttclenched.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
Related but I think better expressed post, linked off the official site
http://www.newnownext.com/drag-race-jinkx-monsoon-snatch-game-little-edie/02/2013/
Oh and in checking Twitter Alyssa DID apologize to Ms. Perry.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:15 (eleven years ago) link
Also this exchange is interesting (notice it's everyone else BUT Jinkx and Michelle who get riled up -- and as Michelle notes, in noting the obvious, there's always editing).
https://twitter.com/JinkxMonsoon/status/306550634079977473
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2013 06:20 (eleven years ago) link
This is better than what they showed on the show:
http://www.newnownext.com/jinkx-monsoon-little-edie-rupauls-drag-race/02/2013/
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
My Top 5 Snatch Game contestants from all seasons:
1. Sharon Needles as Michelle Visage2. Pandora Boxx as Carole Channing3. Tatianna as Britney Spears4. Jinkx Monsoon as Little Edie5. Alexis Matteo as Alicia Keys
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
Only three eps in (S5; no previous exposure to the show). Anyone care to rank the hottest queens out of drag? So far from S5 I'm into Lineysha and, oddly, Ivy.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
xpost I just watched the S2 Snatch Game, Pandora's Carol Channing was hysterical, so good.
Lineysha's gorgeous. Ivy's not a crazy answer either, that bone structure really is something else. I was thinking about her terrible Marilyn and found myself wondering why the hell she didn't do Joan Rivers. Eh. Hindsight
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
Yes she would've been a great Joan Rivers!
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I know this is probably the exact rongest angle to take on the show, but I'm finding it very interesting navigating my impressions/levels of attraction to certain contestants when they're in drag vs. when they're not in drag.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Alyssa's *almost* attractive but it's like her lips are too big for her and she keeps tripping over them when she talks. Beautiful eyes though.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
Coco's blue contacts freak me out. I keep expecting them to shoot lasers
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
Haha Alyssa looks like Will Arnett in AND out of drag.
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
Hottest out of drag:
S1: JadeS2: Tyra, RavenS3: Raja, Carmen, MariahS4: PhiPhi, LashauwnS5: Lineysha
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
xp otm
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
Well, actually, in drag he often reminds me of Hugo Weaving.
xpost elmo otm! Defnitely Will Arnett out of drag. In drag as mentioned upthread I just get constant Joan Collins, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
this new Hulu “Drag Me To Dinner” thing seems weird & random but of course i’ll watch bc Willam
See 40 drag stars from "RuPaul's" "Drag Race", "Dragula", more join new "Drag Me to Dinner" competition series https://t.co/ObhW8CFQoV— Willam (@willam) May 1, 2023
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 May 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
I appreciated the goss the other day where Willam said one reason why All-Stars 8's cast is the way it is was that a lot of people didn't want to join in unless there was a format like season 7 ie no eliminations. (And supposedly AS9 will be like that.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 May 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link
On a much more serious note, eesh.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
So All-Stars has indeed been pretty entertaining with its random enough cast, and the whole Heidi drama is a thing. As is, clearly, Jimbo on a glide path and simultaneously never being able to win a lipsync. But the various Bianca del Rio Pit Stops have been even funnier (I loved how the Sonique episode was half them just talking about other stuff, and the Sugar/Spice one was hilarious).
Drag Race España's been great this season as well, you're missing out if you're missing out of that, but right now Drag Race Mexico looks like it's going to kill it -- that's easily the fanciest work room setup I've seen in a while, not to mention the main stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY8WqQHLMII
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link
if kandy wins i quit. worried about jimbo being such an obvious favorite (where is the arc!). maybe she’s being intentionally bad at lip syncs, to look less of a threat? but probably not..
pit stops have definitely been a riot but it’s the fashion photo ruview that got significantly better with raven replaced. i <3 kerri as a host, shooting kasha’s runway was everything.
― scanner darkly, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link
Yeah she’s a fun change! Introduces a different dynamic by default given the age difference
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link
need a supercut of all the times alexis dramatically wept for attention (also love how the other queens this season are always like “ok. anyway…”)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
and a supercut of lala ri’s face whenever tea is being spilled
― scanner darkly, Friday, 9 June 2023 23:22 (one year ago) link
Based on the preview for next week seems like we'll get dramatic weeping AND some kind of consequences for it!
Meantime talking ancillary stuff -- seeing the Trixie and Katya livestream-of-sorts the other week of a later tour performance was a fun treat, having caught the very first one of the over a year back; fun to see it again and also they slightly changed and reworked things, both onstage and in the edit. They remain great etc etc.
On the flipside, that Drag Me To Dinner thing on Hulu? OOF. Absolute misfire; the whole thing felt very much like a 'what if a theater kid did a drag competition/parody of a drag competition/cooking show/parody of a cooking show' etc. Won't lay it all on Neil Patrick Harris's feet but if that was the center of it all, man. Right from the opening minute it felt forced and cloying, just tonally weird, like it couldn't decide what it was exactly going for. I guess if you want to see slightly slicker versions of a typical mid Drag Race acting challenge you're set.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 June 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link
i tried to watch an episode of Drag Me To Dinner & i bailed hard. love everyone involved but yeah the tone was definitely offlike they were worried about going full camp but kept the jokes as if they were doing that? idk
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link
Made absolutely no sense. Per Willam/Alaska on their podcast talking about their episode it does seem like the prep segments were indeed happening in the moment as opposed to scripted as such but you could have fooled me completely thanks to the ridiculous framing. Just pick a lane!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link
back to allstarskandy really? way to push the narrative. i thought this was 100% Lala’s win and i’m kinda fucked off at them dinging her on her runway “simplicity”???!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 June 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link
loved the lipsync tho
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 June 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
alexis was really good this week too i thoughtjimbo’s number was bad imo, her singing voice just made it dead in the water jayme’s baggy cameltoe grace was yeeeksbut kahanna should have gone home of course kandy sent jaymes home bc she is not stupid but i really kinda hate kandy
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 June 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link
The Pit Stop having ALLLL sorts of fun with that. And with things in general, good lord Peppermint and Bianca have stories
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 June 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link
i fucking love Peppermint so much
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 June 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
Okay so as mentioned Drag Me To Dinner was ass. THIS, though? Sign me the FUCK up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gicOSllEFNQ
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:48 (one year ago) link
Oh and separately we got Drag Race France coming back end of June!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aHCBN5IUfA
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:50 (one year ago) link
LaLa was incandescent this week, literally everything I love about her
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 June 2023 00:21 (one year ago) link
her character was so good
Really is a new highlight for the show's history.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 June 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link
also this makes me love her more
my girl lala ri doesn’t know how to wear a sash lmao pic.twitter.com/WEpYnQJzBx— its edu (@povdemie) June 15, 2023
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 June 2023 00:42 (one year ago) link
will alexis be the top contender for regretting appearing on all stars?
- threw her team under the bus- threw heidi under the bus- yesterday’s ep
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 24 June 2023 20:23 (eleven months ago) link
lol as soon as they were pushing the story of lala saving alexis it was clear what was going to happen i hope kandy sends her home on a rail next week lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 June 2023 23:24 (eleven months ago) link
she did a good lipsync tho
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 June 2023 23:25 (eleven months ago) link
Hilariously, turned out she was posing for photos at a Pride event here in town yesterday; someone I knew went and said she was cool. I was a couple of blocks away at one point, shoulda gone over!
Conclusion of Drag Race España was pretty nice, good winner. Drag Race México got off to a solid enough start last week, Valentina and Lolita make for a fine cohost team; also given Valentina's gender identification it makes for a change-up in terms of how a host presents in the workroom (Lolita goes boy there as per most every other host). And given Nicky's surely not-coincidentally timed appearance on All-Stars here, a reminder we have France kicking in season 2 in a few days.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 June 2023 23:42 (eleven months ago) link
Valentina was great on Pit Stop!
― scanner darkly, Monday, 26 June 2023 03:40 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah that was absolutely spectacular.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 June 2023 04:40 (eleven months ago) link
i can’t stand valentina anymore, i skipped through most of itpurely an irrational pov
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 June 2023 05:20 (eleven months ago) link
omgi kinda don’t care about jimbo either way normally BUT jimbo’s lipsync this week was the stupidest goddamn thing i’ve seen on this show in a long time and i loved it so muchi was dying laughing it was so fucking stupid <3
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 July 2023 04:31 (eleven months ago) link
Unexpected news!
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/hbo-were-here-renewed-season-4-new-hosts-1235534460/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 19:39 (eleven months ago) link
interesting host choices
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 19:41 (eleven months ago) link
Very.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 19:53 (eleven months ago) link
Jimbo 🇨🇦 what a ridiculous perfect creature
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 01:27 (ten months ago) link
Truly! A good way to end the season even if fairly well telegraphed. But pretty great Lala got the Fame Games cash!
Read the oral history of the show the other week -- essential stuff for all the further stories and memories, honestly. It is of course done with the participation of all the production crew and there's obviously quite a bit they won't or don't say, but we get more of a peek behind the curtain. Still, notable who does NOT turn up in the interviews, though they are often mentioned -- Delta, Sharon, Phi Phi, Willam, the Vixen, Naomi too I think, among others. Willam allegedly will be starting a 'book report' on it on Hot Goss this week so I'm sure we're going to get more thoughts, as it were.
Both Mexico and France have been solid watches so far and we have Down Under and Philippines back in the next couple of weeks, and supposedly the first Spanish All Stars en route too.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 01:48 (ten months ago) link
anybody still watching this?enjoying this season much more than the last, it’s a much better and more entertaining group (which is why the snatch game was all the more disappointing)
― scanner darkly, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 03:32 (three months ago) link
Ha, yes, very much been dedicated to it and kept meaning to revive it. Solid cast, yeah, and I have zero idea who will win. Most curious about whether Plain Jane goes the distance or completely fucks up.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 03:36 (three months ago) link
Revive it = revive the thread. Also this is one of the most on-brand things I've ever seen but I admire the commitment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJf6AUz1n9s
(In case you're wondering how Plasma has the money for that: descendant of a Texas political dynasty on the GOP side, but her lobbyist dad apparently flooded the zone against the Texas anti-drag regulation and helped in the lawsuit getting it stopped, so even if it's Senator Rob Portman on gay marriage energy I'll take something over nothing.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 03:38 (three months ago) link
I’m still watching US, UK, Canada, France, All Stars, and Vs. The World. I enjoy most of it, but am not as excited as I used to be when it would be on once a year. I’ve been watching since the first season, and everything after Season 9 has become somewhat of a big blur. The current season is pretty good, but I wish they would get rid of Snatch Game.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 05:37 (three months ago) link
xp i wondered how that was funded (and whether it’s a major spoiler for who wins). that makes the “where were you on january the 6th?” read even funnier lol
― scanner darkly, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 05:47 (three months ago) link
i thought plain jane was almost timid in snatch game? like she wasn’t sure if her jokes were landing? she could’ve killed it.
― scanner darkly, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 05:53 (three months ago) link
i realized i liked this season’s queens more as a group than individuals, the banter, the teasing, they all seem to love each othereither of the three will be an ok winner but i donno, certain star quality is missing
the lipsync lollapalooza ep was such a sudden reminder why this show used to be great, absolutely loved it.
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:38 (two months ago) link
Yeah that was a treat! Plane still bugs but I have a feeling either Sapphira or Nymphia has this so I’m content.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 05:12 (two months ago) link
nymphia is getting an arc, so a likely candidate, but we haven’t seen her lipsync yet..
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:13 (two months ago) link
Well that answered that question! She put on a SHOW. Sapphira was great but really, no contest. (And gloriously, no Plane in the top two.)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 April 2024 17:47 (one month ago) link
Also, great interview:
https://ew.com/rupauls-drag-race-winner-nymphia-wind-exclusive-interview-8636500
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 April 2024 17:56 (one month ago) link
Well oops. Hadn't seen the finale yet. Spoiled! At least I am stoked with the results.
― octobeard, Sunday, 21 April 2024 03:41 (one month ago) link
Sorry about that!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2024 03:50 (one month ago) link
It's my bad for opening! Thought the finals were next week for some reason and this was commentary on the Lollaparooza
― octobeard, Sunday, 21 April 2024 10:19 (one month ago) link
looks like an interesting group for the new all stars..
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 27 April 2024 19:44 (one month ago) link