"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

i thought danielle said the french dudes all died b/c of some unnamed disease?

btw danielles inability to later recognize jin (as well as her seeming lack of knowledge abt time jumps etc) could be pretty easily explained by writers as "she went crazy" which is basically how they played her the whole series--as a nutcase

from one of the lost screencap sites

In 5x04, "The Little Prince", Locke and company comes across some wreckage on the beach after flashing away from their high seas skiff chase. Locke kicks over a can which reads BESIXDOUZE. BE-SIX-DOUZE, or B612 (french) is the name of an asteroid. According to Wiki, the asteroid is named as a reference to "The Little Prince", who lived on an asteroid named B612.

also did anyone play the online game involving Ajira Airways (water bottle found in one of the canoes)

http://www.ajiraairways.com/

just throwing this out here - what if the "sickness" regular-time Danielle talked about is this nose bleed/hemoraging thing

haha wait but none of them are jumping through time are they

When did the Dharma purge happen? Before or after the French dudes died? There was no evidence in that first Ben flashback that he'd found Alex by then.

http://www.ajiraairways.com/ - This is very well designed and elaborate for a prop site. The Lost gang must have a gigantic budget to be tossing off professional web-design bills for this kind of thing. I'll bet there is an ABC promo tie-in at some point during the season (if there isn't already).

I think that was a good assumption until now, since they seem to be saying it's due to island radiation/time jump overexposure. Definitely hoping that Miles is NOT Pierre Chang's kid.

Dharma purge I believe was placed in '92, thanks to Horace Goodspeed's ghost (being dead for 12 years). French dudes were there while Rousseau was pregnant, so that was 16 years before, making it 1988-ish.

Awesome Jin gif up there!

(good assumption referring to '88-era "disease" being time sickness)

http://i44.tinypic.com/2rffpc6.jpg

This ep needed more Ben-zings.
When's Juliet gonna pull some big twist out of the bag?

just throwing this out here - what if the "sickness" regular-time Danielle talked about is this nose bleed/hemoraging thing

― GLEEPGLOP BLOOPBLORP (nickalicious), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:26 (48 minutes ago)

The rest of Danielle's party died when "the sickness" came, remember? What's the betting the sickness includes short term memory loss and nosebleeds?

― Inky pinky ponky, father had a donkey (aldo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:26 (9 hours ago)

;-)

When's Juliet gonna pull some big twist out of the bag?

― Not the real Village People, Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

4 real it bothers me how shes always walking around acting like she knows awesome secrets

Yeah, it seems like, at this point in the narrative, all bets would be off in terms of protecting the Others' secret information. It's a bit of a pox on the writing IMO that they haven't had a Juliette confessional, which would have seemed appropriate at least by some point last season.

no one ever confesses or in anyway communicates any information to anyone - its one of the tenets of the show

lol

ya like when jack is trying to convince kate to come with him why is he all like "come onnnnn... you just haaaaaaaave to"

yeah not 'someone is trying to kill you right now'.

Who here will give odds that someone kills Penny in LA?

Killer:
Ben 3:1
Sayid 5:1
Sun: 12:1
That Commando Dude who killed Rousseau family: 36:1

(I dunno the true odds; I have no idea how you go about handicapping fictional assassins. Little help?)

I'm pretty sure the French dudes don't die of time sickness, seeing as they haven't actually been jumping about in time, and the nosebleeds are determined by the length of stay on the Island.

Penny is so dead.

Hmmm... I wonder if the people with the Canoes and water bottles in the future were perhaps Ben, Jack, Kate, etc who flew Ajira to Fiji?

Why would they be shooting at Sawyer and the others though?

I can't remember very clearly but would they have been close enough to see that it was them? Probably a big stretch, but then, we've seen polar bears on this island, etc. I still want to know where Bernard and the other backgorund characters disappeared to!

widmore is totally gonna kill penny

ya like when jack is trying to convince kate to come with him why is he all like "come onnnnn... you just haaaaaaaave to"

― s1ocki, Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:29 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or when sawyer finally admits to juliette that he saw kate he fails to mention that claire was there giving birth

Finally a full length Darlton podcast. Confirmation that we will find out how the French guy lost his arm (in the dark territory) next week. Also, Vincent will survive all 6 seasons.

Hmmm... I wonder if the people with the Canoes and water bottles in the future were perhaps Ben, Jack, Kate, etc who flew Ajira to Fiji?

I'm guessing the same thing. I'm also betting the Juliet's shot actually hits and kills one of the them.

if it was jack et al in the other canoe why they fire on them tho

yeah exactly...it'll have to be a v elaborate or silly setup to suddenly go "here's why they chased them" and "here's why they fired at them"

honestly i think they wouldve been like hay those look like they might be our friends were looking for - but you know i wouldnt put any sort of crazy plot twists past lost - i mean maybe theyre all hay those black stallions are stealing our canoe get em \(O_O)/

none of the shots hit the timejumpers because they're not supposed to die yet right? similarly if it was jack, kate etc in the other canoe they prob won't get hit either. like sawyer shooting at young charles widmore last week - missed.

juliet's been pretty bad-ass lately but she needs to start talking. it really seems as if she knows more than she lets on - she was ben's favourite lieutenant after all.

btw it's still possible that rousseau's crew is timejumping. depending on which bearing they came in, they could start consciously if not physically timejumping ala minkowski, desmond etc.

i think the length of time spent on the island only affects those who are physically timejumping.

We definitely see someone get shot (and fall in the water?) when Juliet shoots back.

I'm assuming Ajira airlines has something to do with the Others talking about building a runway or some crazy shit, was that last season?

Those others, WHAT will they do next???

no that was for the aliens

Batshit Lostpedia finds from the Ajira website:

A number of messages in hexadecimal coding have been found in the site source code on different pages. They are:

* "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." (From the Bible, John 3:16 - links to the Ajira promotional video).
* "So off they started about Irish sport and shoneen games the like of lawn tennis and about hurley and putting the stone and racy of the soil and building up a nation once again and all of that." (This is a quote from James Joyce's novel 'Ulysses').
* Pineapples in Hawaii. (Pineapples in Hawaii are called Halakahiki).
* Supersonic is commercial thirty till meridian.
* "Where America's day begins." (The official motto of Guam).

What's up with the origami thing as well?

or when sawyer finally admits to juliette that he saw kate he fails to mention that claire was there giving birth

― ice cr?m, Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I rewatched last night and he did say something about "she was delivering Aaron" or something else implying Claire was there.

what's the origami thing?

I want to know how the hell the canoe made the jump with them instead of them just being dropped in the ocean. Perhaps if they're touching things they make the jump, like the compass, those things make it too? It'd explain how they remained clothed, I guess.

I wonder what's up with Ajira Airlines flying to Ames, Iowa. I know that one of those mysterious preview billboards was in Ames and I think Kate's character is supposed to be from somewhere in Iowa, but it still makes no sense. Pretty sure that no planes that'd carry more than ten people could take off from the Ames airport, but I'd guess they're just using the convenient fictional aspect here.

yes im also pretty sure theres no time travelling island in the middle of the pacific but it seems as though theyre using the very convenient "fictional" aspect

Oh yeah, why don't you disprove the existence of a time-traveling island that doesn't show up from space, max.

Daniel asked that they go to something 'manmade'. Maybe only 'manmade' things can move in time with people.

It does feel like they're building up to someone running into themselves on the island or will the island always prevent this from happening? And what if Sawyer HAD called out to Kate?

Sawyer did mention Claire giving birth, incidentally. Maybe not to Juliet but there were dudes shooting at them at the time. He definitely mentioned it later.

I don't think anyone will actually run into themselves because Daniel's already said they can't change the past. I think it's an issue the writers are trying to avoid if at all possible. There might be a Desmond v Desmond face-off at some point but I can't see much else happening.

we'll see i guess—i did find it interesting that we finally DID see non-jumping losties

i mena, that that the jumpers did

there was someone on another blog who was speculating that wise old man locke saying all sorts of cryptic stuff to jack in season 1 was actually wise old man locke from teh future. which would be O_O if you think about having to rewatch all those scenes from s 1 in a new context.

u seem differnt than earlier today

yah dont worry abt that just heres what u got to do

well Locke did save Jack from falling off the side of the cliff when he was chasing his father!

Actually that Jack/Locke thing would be awesome.