"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

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i really didn't like how they killed Danielle off but otoh the coldness of it was exhilirating (ditto for Alex...don't give a toss about Carl ha ha)

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Not to mention a fucking Nikki & Paolo episode.

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

but those are characters who are able to relate more directly with the main characters. Rousseau has always been v isolated which makes her backstory harder to explore and fit in with other people without just going off on a complete tangent for an entire episode (would've been cool with this if it means more island history but i can see why the writers would be reluctant to do this).

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I suppose it's more fulfilling to tell us about Jack's tattoos.

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

jack had an intense experience ok

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Danielle seems like she would have been on the island long enough to have experienced it jump at least once?

I wouldn't think so . . . she's been on it since 1988, Dharma purge was in 1992. Nothing on the show would seem to indicate that the island has been moved during that period.

Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought Sun was going to kidnap Aaron, she is so spooky off island!

For a little while I wondered if she was going to kill Aaron.

Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

would have been good

Local Garda, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Why did she bring Aaron with her to kill Ben or whatever? She's a billionairess--I'm sure she could have put him in some kind daycare.

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

kind OF daycare-- though hopefully it would be kind too.

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe she didn't have time to search for a daycare with an interesting anagram, hatch-style paintings of planes or an address with one of "the numbers." Pity.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

also no one has really mentioned.. Rose? Bernard? I can't remember exactly what happened. They were all together at the camp, ran away when the flaming arrow people appeared and then I can't remember what happened.. Was there a scene where we saw Juliet, Sawyer & all break away from the beach camp people, what happened there?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I would love to see Ben seeing Jin while kidnapping Alex from Rousseau, but I suspect the island won't stay/won't let the losties stay in that time period long enough before a flash. Imagine, though: somehow Ben sees Jin & knows he lives, but Locke DOESN'T see Jin and thus tells Sun Ben essentially killed him.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

That's true--if Locke/Bentham spoke to Sun & she still thinks Jin is dead then Locke must not see Jin before he turns the d.wheel again.

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe in the next episode he'll whip out a photo scrapbook of Jin, Rousseau and baby Alex chilling and eating sushi to convince Sun she should go back

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm quite looking forward to seeing all those French dudes getting capped in the next episode. I'm wondering whether it's Smokey, or whether they end up at the sharp end of the Dharma purge (is this the right time?)

The time jumps are a brilliant device for filling in bits of island backstory but the future, and the dudes in the boats, intrigued me even more. More Widmore lackeys, do we think?

The sooner they get the O6 back to the Island, or hanging out with Crazy Time Lady, the better. The only things I care about there are whatever happened between Ben and Sayid, and whatever the secrets of Sun's father's company are. The rest of it = bothered.

They're going to run into Des and Penny at some point soon as well, surely.

That said, the bit when Sawyer stumbled across Kate and Claire in the jungle was genuinely moving.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought danielle said the french dudes all died b/c of some unnamed disease?

btw danielles inability to later recognize jin (as well as her seeming lack of knowledge abt time jumps etc) could be pretty easily explained by writers as "she went crazy" which is basically how they played her the whole series--as a nutcase

max, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

from one of the lost screencap sites

In 5x04, "The Little Prince", Locke and company comes across some wreckage on the beach after flashing away from their high seas skiff chase. Locke kicks over a can which reads BESIXDOUZE. BE-SIX-DOUZE, or B612 (french) is the name of an asteroid. According to Wiki, the asteroid is named as a reference to "The Little Prince", who lived on an asteroid named B612.

dmr, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

also did anyone play the online game involving Ajira Airways (water bottle found in one of the canoes)

http://www.ajiraairways.com/

dmr, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

just throwing this out here - what if the "sickness" regular-time Danielle talked about is this nose bleed/hemoraging thing

GLEEPGLOP BLOOPBLORP (nickalicious), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

haha wait but none of them are jumping through time are they

GLEEPGLOP BLOOPBLORP (nickalicious), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

When did the Dharma purge happen? Before or after the French dudes died? There was no evidence in that first Ben flashback that he'd found Alex by then.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.ajiraairways.com/ - This is very well designed and elaborate for a prop site. The Lost gang must have a gigantic budget to be tossing off professional web-design bills for this kind of thing. I'll bet there is an ABC promo tie-in at some point during the season (if there isn't already).

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I think that was a good assumption until now, since they seem to be saying it's due to island radiation/time jump overexposure. Definitely hoping that Miles is NOT Pierre Chang's kid.

Dharma purge I believe was placed in '92, thanks to Horace Goodspeed's ghost (being dead for 12 years). French dudes were there while Rousseau was pregnant, so that was 16 years before, making it 1988-ish.

Awesome Jin gif up there!

Nhex, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

(good assumption referring to '88-era "disease" being time sickness)

Nhex, Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i44.tinypic.com/2rffpc6.jpg

Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

This ep needed more Ben-zings.
When's Juliet gonna pull some big twist out of the bag?

Not the real Village People, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

just throwing this out here - what if the "sickness" regular-time Danielle talked about is this nose bleed/hemoraging thing

― GLEEPGLOP BLOOPBLORP (nickalicious), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:26 (48 minutes ago)

The rest of Danielle's party died when "the sickness" came, remember? What's the betting the sickness includes short term memory loss and nosebleeds?

― Inky pinky ponky, father had a donkey (aldo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:26 (9 hours ago)

;-)

Inky pinky ponky, father had a donkey (aldo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

When's Juliet gonna pull some big twist out of the bag?

― Not the real Village People, Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

4 real it bothers me how shes always walking around acting like she knows awesome secrets

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, it seems like, at this point in the narrative, all bets would be off in terms of protecting the Others' secret information. It's a bit of a pox on the writing IMO that they haven't had a Juliette confessional, which would have seemed appropriate at least by some point last season.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

no one ever confesses or in anyway communicates any information to anyone - its one of the tenets of the show

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

ya like when jack is trying to convince kate to come with him why is he all like "come onnnnn... you just haaaaaaaave to"

s1ocki, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah not 'someone is trying to kill you right now'.

Not the real Village People, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Who here will give odds that someone kills Penny in LA?

Killer:
Ben 3:1
Sayid 5:1
Sun: 12:1
That Commando Dude who killed Rousseau family: 36:1

(I dunno the true odds; I have no idea how you go about handicapping fictional assassins. Little help?)

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 5 February 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure the French dudes don't die of time sickness, seeing as they haven't actually been jumping about in time, and the nosebleeds are determined by the length of stay on the Island.

Penny is so dead.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmmm... I wonder if the people with the Canoes and water bottles in the future were perhaps Ben, Jack, Kate, etc who flew Ajira to Fiji?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Why would they be shooting at Sawyer and the others though?

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't remember very clearly but would they have been close enough to see that it was them? Probably a big stretch, but then, we've seen polar bears on this island, etc. I still want to know where Bernard and the other backgorund characters disappeared to!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

widmore is totally gonna kill penny

s1ocki, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

ya like when jack is trying to convince kate to come with him why is he all like "come onnnnn... you just haaaaaaaave to"

― s1ocki, Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:29 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or when sawyer finally admits to juliette that he saw kate he fails to mention that claire was there giving birth

ice cr?m, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Finally a full length Darlton podcast. Confirmation that we will find out how the French guy lost his arm (in the dark territory) next week. Also, Vincent will survive all 6 seasons.

President Keyes, Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmmm... I wonder if the people with the Canoes and water bottles in the future were perhaps Ben, Jack, Kate, etc who flew Ajira to Fiji?

I'm guessing the same thing. I'm also betting the Juliet's shot actually hits and kills one of the them.

Carl Magnusssen (petey_carnum), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

if it was jack et al in the other canoe why they fire on them tho

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah exactly...it'll have to be a v elaborate or silly setup to suddenly go "here's why they chased them" and "here's why they fired at them"

Local Garda, Friday, 6 February 2009 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link

honestly i think they wouldve been like hay those look like they might be our friends were looking for - but you know i wouldnt put any sort of crazy plot twists past lost - i mean maybe theyre all hay those black stallions are stealing our canoe get em \(O_O)/

WATERSLIDE MANSION (ice cr?m), Friday, 6 February 2009 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

none of the shots hit the timejumpers because they're not supposed to die yet right? similarly if it was jack, kate etc in the other canoe they prob won't get hit either. like sawyer shooting at young charles widmore last week - missed.

juliet's been pretty bad-ass lately but she needs to start talking. it really seems as if she knows more than she lets on - she was ben's favourite lieutenant after all.

Disco/Very (Roz), Friday, 6 February 2009 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

btw it's still possible that rousseau's crew is timejumping. depending on which bearing they came in, they could start consciously if not physically timejumping ala minkowski, desmond etc.

i think the length of time spent on the island only affects those who are physically timejumping.

Disco/Very (Roz), Friday, 6 February 2009 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link

We definitely see someone get shot (and fall in the water?) when Juliet shoots back.

Inky pinky ponky, father had a donkey (aldo), Friday, 6 February 2009 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link


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