les miserables (the movie film; not the concert film or book. Dutch angles! Americans! Australians!)

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This is one of those movies that turns my FB feed into a true tale of two cities.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

movie musicals absolutely need abstract body patterns and lots and lots of fountains

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

jackman is pretty much 100% why I want to see this - love any opportunity to see him sing
and I'm v curious about Hathaway

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

who is responsible for trading in dancing for belting out hallmark cards, and can we flog that person

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Hathaway as Javert?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

jackman's real good in this. if he wins an oscar it'd be well deserved. same with hathaway

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

this movie shouldve had the lyrics onscreen the whole time with that little ball bouncing on each syllable

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

who is responsible for trading in dancing for belting out hallmark cards, and can we flog that person

otm. I guess Fosse was the last gasp of great Broadway dance? Or I guess, Twyla Tharp has had some big shows. But none of those have been made into movies (and I haven't seen any of them, so I don't know if they were any good).

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

hathaway didn't have much screen time at all but she was wonderful, yeah. jackman should get some recognition for his part i think

k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

Jackman only seemed great because he played most of his scenes opposite Russell Crowe.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

Like the Twilight movies, I'm only happy that this exists for the hilarious Walter Chaw review:

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2012/12/les-misérables-2012.html

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

the only one who makes real emotion of the melodrama of cramped source material that has the audacity to not only introduce a new generation of characters post intermission, but also ask us to invest in a love triangle between three pretty little ciphers chirping their sorta-pretty little songs.

yeah, exactly. the part where it turns into a teen movie is when i started checking out mentally, and spent the rest of the movie counting the pores on the actors faces

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

I cannot emphasize enough, again, how horrible Crowe is in this

Simon H., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

I really liked Crowe as Javert. I feel so lonely.

JRN, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

Doubt I'll be seeing this. Saw it on Broadway, didn't even love it THEN, and well...

But, ain't gonna hate on those who did like it. I'm just more miffed at the people who are writing scathing nastygrams on their FB Wall to people who had the audacity to criticize the film. One FB friend boasted that Crowe could "wipe his ass" with your paycheck.

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

(This criticism coming from a guy who...had yet to see the film).

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

can't find much to disagree with in that review - way too many closeups, at least 30 minutes too long, confused politics, and crowe's singing was pretty bad. yet...i liked it - am i just a sap? the whole thing is just so warm, deliberate, and kind-hearted. kind of think you have to be a real grump to not have felt it at times

k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

Awwww crypto I love your DN <3

I like that the musical keeps the Balzacian epic quality of the book. It allows minor characters to have big lead songs. In contrast to, say, the latter day revisions of a lot of 19th c source material where the central romance is emphasized at the expense of setting and backstory (modern cinematic adaptations of Great Expectations, Jane Eyre for example)

capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 27 December 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

way too many closeups, at least 30 minutes too long, confused politics.......yet...i liked it - am i just a sap?

i've been reading and re-reading this and i've decided this movie is just .... lyfe

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 09:56 (eleven years ago) link

aw sentimental k3v

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 December 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

i dig a lot of old movie musicals, but broadway-style musicals never did it for me

uh h4a these used to be basically the same thing until culture died.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 December 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

Crowe's rock background is kind of obvious in this clip - dude stands like they're singing Evanescence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fB6LIsntpg

da croupier, Thursday, 27 December 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeahhhhh i noticed that haha

k3vin k., Thursday, 27 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

for all the shit gerard butler got for his singing in phantom, crowe was way, way worse

k3vin k., Thursday, 27 December 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

I saw this, it was pretty OK. Considering how lame some of the songs are ("Bring him home", "Empty chairs") they did a great job, both actors and performers

I'm willing to admit that the 3 minutes of Anne Hathaway singing "I dreamed a dream" was the most moved I've ever been by anything since prepubescence

I liked also how gross it was, from Javert breaking his back as he fell to the snot and eye-boogers and shit and thing, it kept the pathos in the Real Zone

The whole second half has some dreadful songs though, some of them so bad I'd forgotten they'd existed

Russell Crowe wasn't as bad as people say, he just sings like a trombone. His death scene was good

capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 28 December 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link

ah now cmon, spoilers

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Friday, 28 December 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link

lol @ "sings like a trombone"

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 December 2012 06:18 (eleven years ago) link

His last sound going over should have been the "wah-wah-wahhhhhh" noise.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 December 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

this fucking owned

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buzza, Friday, 28 December 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link

Denby opens a can of whupass, has rehab suggestions for you Les Shizzies:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/01/theres-still-hope-for-people-who-love-les-miserables.html

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

Wherever Valjean goes, Javert shows up; he’s everywhere at once, like the Joker in “The Dark Knight,” who was at least intended to be a fanciful creation.

Would like to shake the hands of whoever stuck a "Based on true events" on Denby's copy of the novel.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 5 January 2013 09:31 (eleven years ago) link

this was much, much better than i'd hoped for. crowe did struggle for air but tbh javert's just an awful part, even sung well, it's just continuous tuba notes going nowhere.

Hathaway, jackman and guy playing marius were all great. Bring him home was terrible tho, disappointing considering he did well with everything else asked of him.

Cosette sang like a cartoon mouse. HBC's singing was awful.

Whole thing looked amazing.

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

the songs are all really boring and awful songs even for a broadway-ish joint except for "i dreamed a dream" which is amazing, it's weird.

fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 January 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

well i love 'bring him home' and the one or two ensembles bringing all the motifs together can be great too (lacked something in this tho, maybe too much focus on individual vocals i think)

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 03:18 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, you liked it but you hate the music? Not a dig, just wondering how you can enjoy a completely sung-thru musical and hate all of teh songs!

NINO CARTER, Saturday, 12 January 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

the songs are all really boring and awful songs even for a broadway-ish joint except for "i dreamed a dream" which is amazing, it's weird.

I agree that "Dream" outshines everything else, but "On my own", "Master of the house", "Do you hear the people sing?", "Castle on a cloud", and to a lesser extent "Look down", "Bring him home" and "Empty Chairs" are all good-to-great megamusical fare

And "Red & Black" is the best example of megamusical recitative that I've heard

But yeah, then there are five or six other songs that suuuuck

friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Re: "bad singing" I liked it, actually, every actor had their own kind of not-great singing style and it a) contributed to the snot and shit stylization of the whole thing, and b) it made every singer so individual and different. I actually was left the least moved by the "pro" stage singer (Eponine) just 'cause she seemed so out of place in an otherwise filthy and fucked up production

friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

Like when Amanda Seyfried started singing and she sounds like a theremin I was like of course girl sounds like a theremin

friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

Biggest head scratcher I've read about is that Sacha Baron Cohen sings/acts with an exaggerated French accent, despite the fact that the no one else in the movie has a French accent, even though it is set in France.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

Because Thernardier is a racist, obv

friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

fortunately I've only met one gay who knows more than one verse of "It Was All A Dream, I Used to Read Word Up Magazine" or whatever

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I was so upset by the banality of the music that I felt like hiring a hall and staging a nationalist rally.

or David Denby's Dream Life.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

About a month ago, my neighbor's elderly father from the middle of nowhere Texas came to visit, with one goal being a chance to see "Les Mis" on stage, which he's wanted to see for 25 years. Found it so weird that in 2013 there were still people anywhere who have really wanted to see this musical for 25 years. I can't remember the last time I saw someone in a "Les Mis" sweatshirt.

How long until the CGI-enhanced "Cats" movie?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

See I'm just amazed that Les Miz is getting all this crap piled on it, like, are these people aware of the hundreds of other horrible "musicals" that exist?

friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Yea but none of them are currently films atm

NINO CARTER, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

And none of them are a) the scientifically-proven best musical of all time, brought to you now in singovision b) the musical in the thread title.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, you liked it but you hate the music? Not a dig, just wondering how you can enjoy a completely sung-thru musical and hate all of teh songs!

― NINO CARTER, Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:17 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah there were a couple other good ones i was exaggerating a little

fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 January 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

No I know I was talking about the sweeping cultural indictments that I've read elsewhere (some of which are linked to from this thread)

friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

That said I didn't pay any attention to any drubbing that Schumacher's Phantom received so nm

friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link


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