I think Ang Lee's Hulk is better than its rep. I'd rather see more comics adaptations by him than anything by Singer.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
No.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 04:43 (eleven years ago) link
X1-3 have always felt about the same, quality-wise, to me. I actually like First Class the least.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 November 2012 07:32 (eleven years ago) link
i havent seen X2 since it came out but i thought it was pretty sick back then.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link
Compared to the excitement surrounding the other Marvel universe, this is all a bit old hat
Yeah, this is otm. The Marvel Studios movies have done a great job of putting a lot of the fun stuff from the comics on-screen and creating a sense of a shared universe. The X-Men movies, on the other hand, have seemed increasingly like box-ticking exercises to ensure the movie rights didn't revert back to Marvel.
I did enjoy First Class, mainly for Fassbender and McAvoy's performances, but the idea of a flashback movie must surely have come because they had painted themselves into a stupid corner at the end of X3 and couldn't think of an alternative. I have similar reservations about the thinking behind bringing back McKellen and Stewart.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
the 3rd x-men movie is like a surprisingly entertaining bill mantlo fill-in after the ponderous len weinesque first two
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
I liked the first two fine but I always kind of tried too hard to like them because that was as good as it got at the time. Glad that Marvel is finally putting out movies that I enjoy unreservedly (Lee's Hulk was stylistically annoying, and I never got what people saw in the Spider-flicks).
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
xp Haha, I'd never thought of it like that before but you're right. It certainly has all the Mantlo hallmarks of being hastily hashed-together at the last minute to cover a blown deadline. In fact, wasn't X3 rushed into production to meet a predetermined release date?
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
I have similar reservations about the thinking behind bringing back McKellen and Stewart.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:28 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i bet they won't be in it that much
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
yeah. matthew vaughn was the original director of X3 and he bailed because he didnt like the release date, which is how ratner came to fill in for him.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
he didn't like the fact that they didn't have a script or finished production design but that the release date meant that shooting started in a week or three, iirc
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
I was high on pain medication and sleep deprived when I watched X3 so I remember LOVING it. If I watched it now it would probably be terrible, but at the time it was hilarious and entertaining.
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
X3 is terrible, but it is also hilarious and entertaining
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
I did enjoy First Class, mainly for Fassbender and McAvoy's performances, but the idea of a flashback movie must surely have come because they had painted themselves into a stupid corner at the end of X3 and couldn't think of an alternative.
Or... they are taking the second-most popular X-Men story and adapting it for the big screen after taking the most popular X-Men story (Dark Phoenix) and adapting it for the big screen
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
he means First Class was a flashback movie
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
Of course that's what they're doing, DJP - it just seems to me that the fact they needed to quietly reboot with a shift to the sixties instead of just continuing on to do Days of Future Past as a direct sequel to X3 suggests they ran out of narrative steam with the third movie.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
― turds (Hungry4Ass)
It was pretty good, but I spent most of it thinking 'Why does this not have Sentinels in it?'
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:30 AM
nerd lolz.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:22 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
it sucked how they pussed out on sentinels in x3 because avi arad hates giant humanoids or something
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
Galactus say hi to youhttp://www.voalte.com/uploads/images/doodle-525-cloud.jpeg
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
X2 seemed really cool at the time, definitely better than the first one and in hindsight leagues ahead of the terrible third one. But they all started to feel hokey and made-for-TV once the general caliber of superhero movies started rising with stuff like Spider-Man 1 and 2.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
I liked it so much I remember thinking s1ocki was a jerk for disliking it (I really have no excuse for this other than him being relatively new at the time). Then I watched it on tv a couple of years ago and realized it was pretty meh.
http://i.qkme.me/3ppljj.jpg
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, I had just woken up when I wrote that previous post
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
It had a cool plot, more going on in it than the first one by far, some nice shoutouts to bits of continuity that you wouldn't think they'd use, the cool Wolverine/Deathstrike fight, the whole Magneto-recruiting-Pyro thing which was cool...but just overall not compelling. I assume it's better than the Fantastic Four movies (which I've only seen bits of).
Probably wouldn't turn it off if I was home for the holidays and it was on in the afternoon.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
oh man, EVERYTHING is better than the Fantastic Four movie, including oral surgery
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
https://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/cap-super-slapfight.jpg
http://www.customaniacs.org/forum/CM_show_preview.php?attachmentid=80318
http://omnipotent-film-critic.com/img-2005/elektra-2.jpg
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ qualified oral surgeons
i've enjoyed every x movie (even wolverine). the "young kid learns their disability is a virtue" thing always tugs at my heartstrings and super powers are nifty.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
granted i'm not sure i've ever seen any of them twice
realizing i remember exactly nothing about any of the x-men movies
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
The first X-Men movie was the point where I had to confront the fact that while I really adore watching her on screen, Halle Berry actually is a horrible actress.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
no one could have delivered that "do you know what happens to a toad" line credibly tbf
― Number None, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
Her line reading was incredibly wooden, even though the line is bad.
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
maybe Angela Bassett or Gina Torres?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
I loved the way Halle Berry had a terrible faux-African accent in the first one which she just decided to dispense with altogether for the second and third ones.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
She did???? I don't remember that at all!
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
halle's perf in the first x-men is oscarworthy next to january jones in first class
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
to be fair NO ONE could deliver chris claremont-derived dialogue with any conviction
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
oh no one said January Jones was any good either
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
Berry's toad line made more sense when I read Whedon explaining that she'd delivered it completely wrong. S'posed to be a snarky, Buffy-esque zinger.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
imo thats just whedon passing the buck instead of sacking up and taking responsibility for a terrible line
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
the way blockbuster action films are made, there are at least a dozen people who should be smacked for that line
― da croupier, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
I never had the guts to watch the Daredevil or Elektra movies
now, Punisher: War Zone, that is awesome
― mh, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
punisher: war zone is one of the best films of the 21st-century
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, War Zone is a blast. The How Did This Get Made? podcast with the director, still somewhat bemused by her brush with the Hollywood system, is fantastic.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
Daredevil was terrible, but it was still better than the F4 movies
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
I think I saw maybe 20 minutes of each of those films, and they are the worst things
― mh, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/8/2012/01/507da3a1187ba9ad97a51cd23dfe3700.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggH5-vLlUQ
Fantastic Four!Don't need no more! (that's ungrammatical)
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
Always thought Corman Thing looked better (in stills, anyway) than Commish Ting.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link