"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

according to Miles it's taken Widmore 20 years so far to find the island so i guess he defects from Richard who then adopts Ben who then banishes him from the island somehow after the Dharma v Hostile purge (but interested to see how Widmore comes to believe the island is his and why he appears to not respect Richard v much).

I would guess that Widmore believes he should have been chosen as the leader and perhaps Ben engineered his banishment because he called bullshit on Ben's claim of having been born on the island.

aw i kind of liked the corny Dan/Charlotte stuff although the "i said it because i meant it" exchange was some tv writer bullshit.

20 years would mean that Widmore was already off the island in the 80s, which is before the Dharma purge. i guess the island could've been moved once in the 80s which might explain how Rousseau and her crew crashed into it.

I don't quite get the "Desmond is the only one immune from time's laws" deal-- in that Daniel was the one who actually changed the past by banging on the Hatch door and telling Desmond about his mom. Does this mean that anyone can change time when they are around Desmond, or just Daniel?

the way Daniel explained it I think any of the other characters could have banged on the hatch and roused Desmond but if it was, say, Kelvin in there it wouldn't have worked

or was it only possible for Daniel to do it because Dan and Desmond had met at Oxford? I dunno

I like the Dan/Charlotte love stuff because
1) it's people from the helicopter crew
2) we don't get the mushy backstory
3) what if she is just a relative?
4) Faraday saying "I'm definitely not Romeo"
5) It's not Jack/Sawyer/Kate/Juliet
(sudden question that came to my mind - does Faraday know Juliet from before? great another possible scenario...)

During casting, Charlotte was described as "a hot twentysomething ... precocious, loquacious and funny... a very successful academic who also knows how to handle herself in the real world". She also has "lots of repressed and pent-up emotions" beneath the surface. The chosen actress, Mader, was told to be a "female version of Indiana Jones"

and according to wiki: it was hard for fans to connect with Charlotte because "she arrived with an apparent mission and then didn't do it" and was disappointed to not get the opportunity to tell Charlotte's backstory during season four.

yeah her role was originally offered to Kristen Bell (who would've been great) but she went off to do Heroes instead.

aw i kind of liked the corny Dan/Charlotte stuff although the "i said it because i meant it" exchange was some tv writer bullshit.

yeah this was a real "ugh" moment

maybe it's because I don't remember them interacting much or being interested in each other during the last season, that I honestly think (or have a theory) that Dan might only be pretending to love her so that she will have a constant.

I cant remember him showing much if any interest before

Charlotte did get worst deal out of the 4 Freightie Characters-- Miles and Frank got minimal back story but enough good lines & scenes to establish themselves. Charlotte was meant to remain ambiguous throughout SSN4. Her main role seemed to be continually telling Daniel not to tell the 815ers anything--which pissed me off. Now she's sick or dying & it's difficult to care, except for the fact that it would upset Daniel, who we like.

ehh even Jin and Sun figured out that Dan was in love with her xp

on the Dan/Charlotte thing...
1)he probably just sucks at relationships (he is a mathematician)
2)better yet - maybe he knows (or at least thinks) that Charlotte is going to die and has to say how he feels now

xp - yeah I missed all the set up for this love scenario

Charlotte was really supposed to be the most interesting one in that she knew that the 815 plane they found was a fake, seemed to know about Dharma and prob born on the island but her character really wasn't given a chance to be likeable or relatable in any way.

mandatory Kristen Bell image
http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2008/08/25/kristen-bell10220601.jpg
every time you see Charlotte - close your eyes and pretend you see this

Has Charlotte definitely been written out? I don't see it myself, seeing as they're running quite low on island characters now.

nah not clear that she's dead by episode end = she'll live.

the thing about Kristen Bell is that she's cute, but she's also only like 3 feet tall and thus worthless as a human being. You want to have sex with a 10 year old?

I don't quite get the "Desmond is the only one immune from time's laws" deal-- in that Daniel was the one who actually changed the past by banging on the Hatch door and telling Desmond about his mom. Does this mean that anyone can change time when they are around Desmond, or just Daniel?

Daniel didn't actually change the past, though. Desmond doesn't remember this meeting until after he leaves the island, which suggests to me that the universe made him forget it the minute after it happened.

Daniel/Charlotte love stuff is so fucking lame and i am getting sick of his stoned/out-of-breath voice, just speak normally Dan. too many annoying haughty British accents too :(

RONG on all counts. mader is strangely alluring. i think the chopper people are a great addition and wouldn't care overmuch if they killed off jack/kate/sawyer at this moment, not that that's going to happen ever.

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That's not how I read it. Des had never met Daniel at the Hatch. But then Daniel goes back in time & bangs on hatch door. Normally Daniel would not be able to create a scenario that had not happened in the past, but since Des is immune from time laws he can--thus the newly manufactured fact bounces through time and shows up in present day Des' head as a memory.

This is also what happened when Military Des visited Daniel's Oxford lab in The Constant. Daniel had not met Des in the past, but then the meeting changed the past and the note showed up in his notebook.

the thing about Kristen Bell is that she's cute, but she's also only like 3 feet tall and thus worthless as a human being. You want to have sex with a 10 year old?

this is a weird thing to say

those two sentences were prob supposed to be different posts on separate internet sites

i pretty much agree w/ ffm.

even jason segal's dick didn't want to be near her.. are the d00ds on this site less discriminating than jason segal?

is that a serious question? do you want to have sex w/a ten y/o?

im not sure what "being three feet tall," "wanting to have sex with a 10 year old" and "being a worthless human being" all have to do with one another?

also jason segal was playing a character in that movie, it wasnt real life

i would have sex with jason segal

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/kristen-bell-hayden-panettiere.jpg

ws

ws: elf edition!

http://www.gecce.com/web/images/haber/kristen_bell_160408.jpg

elfs r sexy

Here's some other worthless human beings (same height as Kristen Bell):
http://www.celebheights.com/s/154Female.html

i think u mean elves are sexy

how come ashley olsen is there but not mk?

listen when i write elfs its cause i mean elfs fyi

elfs atisfaction

Nancy Grace ( (5ft 1in) ,

^^^ only chick on the list who is a worthless human bring

all I see are a whole lotta excuses gentlemen. AND DON'T TRY TO PRETEND LIKE FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL WAS A "MOVIE"!!

Take it to the Veronica Mars thread, folks. If there is one.

hey i was catching up on last week's colbert report and the tuesday episode had a cute Lost shoutout - in the Cheating Death segment, there was a brief image of a check numbered 4815, dated 9/22/04 and made out to Jeremy Bentham. :)

OK we are caught up now! Thank U Pillboxx for the link, signed happy Lost fans in 3rd world country.

We can't use torrents b/c we are on public computers and they won't let us install torrent software (which I can understand), but they will let us DL from megaupload or wherever.

Is this thread NSFW now?

i wanna know where Richard was when 815 crashed and whether he thought 'oh so THIS is how Locke gets here' (assuming he remembers Locke from '54 onwards). and why he can't just be Others leader himself (maybe his unnatural long-life makes this untenable somehow or his 'powers' need to be controlled in this way - damn Jacob and his red tape).

Richard was in Miami checking up on Juliet's sister when 815 crashed.

Has anyone else been reading the episode recaps on Pajiba? They're pretty great.

So have we talked about why Widmore is funding Faraday's research? If the project was to find a way to send one's mind around in time without dying--then perhaps Widmore wants to send his own mind back to a specific point in the past so that he can do something differently.

Presumably he's also funding Charlotte's research and, well, whatever it is Miles is going?

Yeah, it sucks we don't know a lot about what Charlotte's research is. When she found the Dharma Polar Bear skeleton I thought it was a sign that the Dharma organization had been around for thousands of year (sort of like on Millennium when they found the 1000 yr. old body with the Millennium symbol) but now with all the time jumping, it could be that that was a present-ish day bear transported into the past somehow.

well or he is Faradays secret dad xpost