Wreck-It Ralph

yep!

exactly, it's the depth of such gags that I enjoyed. Like, how the hell did they get that kinda joke in a major disney flick?

because John Lasseter probably

yeah, what i'm thinking. I'm curiously how many of the animation/design staff have seen "King of Kong"

i missed it, i'm assuming it was a killscreen?

It got an 'A' from the AV Club, which I wasn't expecting (and naturally set off my 'pandering' alarm)

This was pretty great. The pandering was limited and well-contained. Really well-cast, I think. I felt like the back half of the movie was a bit overburdened with mission objectives for the leads to end things successfully.

I'm nearly as bored with hyperreal animation as my partner w/ an animation background is, but the style allowed for some pretty great meta-gags in the Fix-it Felix world. The way the Nicelanders moved was amazingly spot-on; pixelated cake-splatters. Basically great art direction overall.

Also Paperman was a stellar short. I believe the look of the film required some experimental lighting, shading, and rendering pipelining and it payed off really well. The 2d/3d look was miles ahead of cel-shaded 3d, really well-integrated and well-lit. Also it was quite charming, had an anime-inspired aesthetic. I'm glad that Lasseter's leadership of Disney Animation is allowing them to develop a voice and mission distinctive from their Pixar counterparts.

I agree with all of this. The short was lovely, and Wreck It Ralph itself was great.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-henry-jackman-wreck-it-ralph-20121101,0,3011992.story

Dude bought a Donkey Kong cabinet just to study the chips to make the music

Was worried for a while about being stuck in Sugar Rush with Sarah Silverman at her most annoying, but it all worked out in the end. Solid flick.

yup, solid stuff. also totally didn't realize that purple rhino from was Altered Beast.

it's cool for what it is and significantly better than Brave

paperman short was sweet, despite the cynical reactions of my fellows. totally got the anime vibe there too

i dug this. hated paperman. i'm kinda anti-whimsy though.

i could have watched that go kart race forever and ever.

i missed the joke after the credits though! cyrus always wants to leave before the credits are over. so impatient.

Eh, credits joke wasn't worth the wait.

I liked this better than "Brave," too, and for a video game movie about a giant dude smashing things, it was pretty girl-power friendly. Weird, though, how it works almost as a conflation of "Monsters, Inc." and "Toy Story 3." It even borrows the latter's support group gag. But that doesn't really hurt the movie in the end.

Loved the movie. Hated paper man.

alan tudyk does a startling ed wynn impression

congratulations! you are in the fellowship of ppl under 70 who can recognize an Ed Wynn impression.

(I have no idea who Alan Tudyk is)

I really loved this movie, and my kids (of course) dug it too.

Disney have really upped their game with this. It was funny as hell (no "oh MAN!!!" Dreamworks-style "jokes"), visually awesome, and the central relationship didn't feel forced or annoying. It was fast-paced too, which I liked because of all the gags thrown in (not sure how kids would take it in). The world they created was really engrossing, like Toy Story/Monsters Inc as mentioned upthread.

Most enjoyable movie I've seen in ages.

Just watched it. Haven't seen Brave, but there's no way it was better than this.

pretty good, despite ripping off The Iron Giant a bit

Enjoyed this a lot. Loved the references (incl. king of kong). Didn't catch gag.

Watched this last night, like most Pixar movies I've seen recently it started out amazing and quickly devolved into Hollywood Film Story A and i spent much of the rest of the movie just wishing it would pursue the stranger more character-driven beginning rather than HERO SAVES THE WORLD. But still, lots of affecting moments, pretty enjoyable, etc. When he smashed her car it was effing sad!

The crazy candy mayor was pretty rad, reminded me of the Mad Hatter from the OG Alice in Wonderland.

Music kinda sucked, they should have had some real Chiptune stuff instead of the pop tunes during the sugar race but whatever.

The Darth Vader sound when Ralph was breathing through a straw hiding in the chocolate pond.... was Disney hinting at the SW merger?

I liked the joke when he went "You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?" and then Ralph takes off his glasses and hits him with them, and the guy goes "Oh, i see what you did there..."

Oh yeah, there was a part where they are at the party and he smashes the cake and some stuff lands on Pac Man and his jaw drops or something, i think it was a reference to Watchmen.

It seemed a lot darker than Pixar - even with Monsters Inc you didn't get the impression that they thought of themselves as villains - the heel turn in fact seemed completely brutal - compared with what I was expecting it was some Lars Von Trier shit.

Cosign on Paper Man being an interesting technical demonstration that can largely go fuck itself.

Just watched this as my inaugural "movie I watch with my kids (even if they're too young to appreciate it)" and it was pretty great, although part of my has some concerns about how much the "accept yourself" motto was mixed in with strains of "know your place" and "pull yourself up by your bootstraps".

Hey, at least it didn't go as far as The Incredibles

Like, people talked a lot about how conservative The Incredibles was and the baseline message of this movie was "things work for the best when everyone plays the roles they were born into (unless you are Q-Bert)"

xp: lol

i saw it a couple months ago, thought it was great and very sweet.

xp Yes and no... Penelope being a secret princess and follow that, but her heroism and uniqueness stems from the fact that she isn't willing to follow "the rules", what with the glitching. Not to mention the relationship between the space marine and Fix-It Felix certainly deviates from their fated paths. I don't think Ralph's desire to be something more was seen as bad, so much as being disliked by everyone else in the game that wasn't Felix; the way I read it, it was their failing in recognizing him for himself as much as his own self-esteem issues.

It's not as black and white as The Incredibles mocking of stepping-up ceremonies and a main character actually spouting Randian chestnuts like "If everybody's special, than NO ONE IS!"

Shit that just reminds me of why I hated the incredibles

I actually liked both movies a lot, but yeah, the politics in The Incredibles makes it harder to revisit compared to, well, every other Pixar film.

It's one where I thought if I had kids I would be opposed to letting them absorb that movie's message

do any Pixar or Disney movies have a strong non-conformist message? I know people have made the argument for "Let It Go" as something of an outsider anthem

But... the main bad guy is the character who started hijacking other racing games so he could continue being the best. Ralph's quest to be treated better by the people in his game almost destroys his game, as well as another wholly separate game. Ralph doesn't save the day or become a good guy until he explicitly states that he will never be more than a bad guy. The day isn't saved until Sugar Rush is rebooted and Vanellope is put back into the place where she belongs, which happens to be the ruler, which happens to grant her enough leeway to make the choice as to how she will present herself. Also, the Felix/Tamora relationship has zero impact on their games.

Really, the only thing that makes the movie less conservative is that it found a space for the random homeless characters, which is why I added that aside. It's a really fun, entertaining piece of work and it's message is deeply rooted in adhering to existing class structures as the root of all happiness.

kids don't absorb movie messages especially not when their fathers might encourage thinking about such things as opposed to the bit where the talking animal fell over or farted

like I watched Jedi with my dad and he kept spoiling it by solemnly intoning "THATS VERY TRUE" at all of Yoda's lessons and that's basically why all his sons don't believe in positive thinking.

this movie is a+ btw

fwiw I liked The Incredibles tons, as well

ha! good yoda story. oh, dads.

I'm obv against analysing the politics of most movies and esp kids ones

but eeesh the incredibles

it's a shame because The Incredibles really is one of their best films, it adds a sour taste to it

Huzzah.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GLt6DiAO--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/xkkcnnxbrvo7prbznsy0.jpg

(Actual title, actual logo.)

Plus this, with lots of little Twitter-like birds too.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--YQy5hb7n--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/jdyixelbl3ex3rbf0dy3.jpg

I'm cashing in all of my industry chips to lobby for an Ornaldo Bloomps cameo.

"lubhub"

reminds me of how Chicken Little had a line about "Chickens Gone Wild"

"lubhub"

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I...I don't know what to say. Spoilers for a particular scene at least.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/wreck-it-ralph-2-is-bringing-back-all-the-disney-prince-1796938437

Sounds fake but who knows. Disney writers could actually be this blind.

But there is one place where everyone shares all the same likes: OhMyDisney.com, the happiest place online.

She said the place has everything, including food and merch—and then someone runs and screams “Tsum Tsum,” a real-life popular stuffed toy, which Vanellope calls “little furry sausages.”

Tsum tsum have been a thing for a long time.

Though I will say, as a family experience it's rare that we all agree on a movie, even if we all agreed we hated it, so at least there was that!

song gave me a few giggles AND got me teary, i'm a sap.

idk i really responded to the whole idea of friends that move away/follow their own thing but that doesn't mean the end, etc.... i agree it was laid on a little thick, and to get us there ralph has to be a REAL doof for most of the movie. just do one-third as many scenes that reestablish his problem. i also think it wd have been better if his toxic masculinity had been provoked and encouraged by some gamergate svengali types who picked up on his jealousy of shank, etc. the whole virus scheme just took too much time and verbiage.

i wish all the corporations were fake equivalents, just as the made-up video games are funnier and more charming than having the street fighter characters and pac-man there.

i'm not a parent so what do i know - but it struck me as cool that the takeaways from this went beyond "believe in yourself!" to more practical lessons like "don't read the comments," "don't be a clingy jealous jerk dude," "the internet is toxic," and "your friends are going to move away someday, but seeing them in a few months and staying in touch by phone is still a real friendship."

I know these are supposed to be good but I can't shake my prejudice that they aren't far enough removed from Pixels/Ready Player One territory. And that's my bad, I know.

One thing I'm appreciating at this particular moment is that John C. Reilly is able to both enjoy a pretty decent level of success and also, additionally, do basically whatever ridiculous project he wants, seemingly without compromise at any point on that continuum. Like I just now remembered that he was the dad in We Need to Talk About Kevin. I love him.

yeah if this is making it easy for him to spend however many years wheeling and dealing to get The Sisters Brothers made, that's worth it in and of itself.

another admitted gripe: the dangers of the internet are sort of limited here. tho obviously the movie doesn't have to be ALL about that, and it does find an emotional hook and metaphor for one big one (amplification of toxic insecurities), it's almost by design unable to address at least some big ones, like "giant corporations like disney want you to use the internet constantly to gather your data" etc. etc.

Yeah, exactly. There is a good, smart, almost subversive movie that could have been made here, but ... this is not it. This was just a half-assed hodgepodge of ideas in search of a movie. My wife actually fell asleep, probably around the time it went from "we have to get that steering wheel!" (apprx. the first 3 hours of the movie) to "why can't we be FRIENDS! I JUST WANT TO BE FRIENDS! WON'T YOU BE MY FRIEND!"

Seriously, are there kids out there who saw or even liked the first one and wondered, even once, how the friendship between Ralph and Vanellope was working out? They ain't exactly Anna and Olaf, or (insert Disney character and sidekick here).

I loved the whole Slaughter Race idea / Alan Menken musical number!

but if you don't like Zangief jokes, gtfo

very much enjoyed this though i agree it's kinda forgettable in the end. at least 30 minutes of the film was just meme gags that had no relevance to the story (which is fine! but gives the whole thing a much floatier air)

Can't decide if making clickbait virus purveyors sympathetic was subversive reminder of the humanity of even the scummiest aspects of the internet or insidious propaganda by scumlords.

counterpoint on the ralph/vanellope friendship: isn't this what makes the film interesting? so many kids' movies end with a best-friends-forever kind of thing, as the first one did. i think doing what this does with that friendship, showing that such a happy "ending" isn't one, that it can still hit a rough patch, that one person can be a jerk by wanting to keep that "forever" in stasis, is worth doing.... and wouldn't work with a brand-new movie where we don't care about the characters and their lives. i like that both characters actually move forwards into new places and don't end where they start, etc., which is a real plague on sequels like this. again tho i agree that it's sold a little too hard and repetitiously.

I mostly didn't care about their friendship or whether it survived, but maybe that's just me.

I found the sequel enjoyable but a bit of a mess; my main problem was that, to me, the character motivation and plot progression were all over the place. It felt like the story had been cut down from something much longer.

The princess scenes were great, too bad we had seen most of them already.

Oh yeah I was all in on the friendship so that probably makes all the difference!

Agreed about it feeling cut down. It was long as-is so it bugs me more that they shoehorned in the Star Wars stuff, the orphaned racers stuff, and other things that take the movie off track.

I didn't see any trailers or anything so that helped with the princess stuff. A kid a few seats away had memorized the first big princess scene and was speaking every line along in time. I was sort of okay with those bits, Family Guy-ish tho it might be.... since even if the autocritique is all points we all know by this point, it's still good for Disney themselves to say them. Not like they're gonna pull the more problematic characters out of circulation of course. If anything I imagine they're now selling alternate versions wearing their new outfits etc.

My kids loved this, especially the Princess scenes, which we had no idea about beforehand. My 3 year old daughter still talks about this move from time to time even though we saw it about a month ago. It's her first favorite movie.

Ooh, you want forgettable, I forgot The Incredibles 2 even came out. I really didn't like that one, either.

wtf the Incredibles 2 was incredible! it's right there in the name!

I thought it was as plotless and thematically muddled as Ralph (though at least Incredibles 2 looked great!).

And mentioned in this thread a little earlier, but the Spider-man cartoon is sooooooooo good - smart, gorgeous, funny, moving - that it really shows how subpar Incredibles 2 and Ralph are.

We can have both! I don't really see them as being in the same category at all, especially since Spider-Man drew from tons of source material and the other two are original properties (well, for the most part)

Both movies had pretty clear themes, even if you didn't like 'em lol

I can't even remember the theme of Incredibles 2. Was it that dads have trouble being stay at home parents and women should work? I dunno. I do seem to recall the villain's evil plan being to make superheroes legal again so that they can frame them crashing a boat into stuff so that superheroes would be made illegal. Lots of runaway vehicles in this one.

Regardless, I did literally forget Incredibles 2 came out this year!

The theme of Incredibles 2 is "I, Brad Bird, am a better person than I was 15 years ago"

"I, Brad Bird, made the jump to live-action blockbusters with Mission: Impossible, but then flopped with the terrible and boring Tomorrowland, so was forced to go back and make a sequel to my best known animated hit in order to get out of movie jail."

look, if you can't appreciate a stealth-Randian family film i don't know what you to tell ya

I did not appreciate it

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