asexual pride movement

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbclvfkrhI1rubjl2o1_400.jpg

I am like, barely heterosexual and practically asexual. Almost no people turn me on.

misleading display name then

has there been any theoretical/psych inquiry into this yet?

Into homosexual II's display name?

The Asexuals are pretty good. I have a few of their EPs. Canadian HC never gets enough attention IMO.

The 'asexual and proud' flag looks like a supermarket own brand licorice allsort.

http://i.imgur.com/hwuiC2k.png

LOL, we really are such narcissists, aren't we?

Asexuality would not be synonymous with celibacy, which is a lack of sexual activity, but rather would indicate a complete lack of sexual urges. Since such a state would seem to be accidental, it seems a strange thing to take pride in.

uh people take pride in lots of states they have little control over, for several reasons

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy

Just because people do weird things doesn't mean they aren't weird.

holy motherfucking shit @ christine chubbock, I had never heard of that before xp

xp yeah but those things being entirely explicable & common somewhat dampens the strangeness, is what I'm saying

Asexual pride isnt any "weirder" than gay pride. I dont understand your point Aimless.

asexuals have never been persecuted afaik

yeah I'm not trying to draw any equivalency & I have problems w ppl coöpting the terms of the persecuted but I did say there were several reasons, for instance the ppl asserting their "pride" may previously have spent years feeling like shit for being different regardless of lack of persecution from the outside world

Gay "pride" has a needful compensatory function, in that the accident of a non-standard sexual orientation has been irrationally made a point of social shame and rampant discrimination. Asexuals, to the best of my knowlege have never been the objects of similar discrimination.

Compare the only asexual epithet I can identify, virgin!, to others such as nigger, faggot, kike, greaser, fairy or bulldyke and the difference in the need for asserting "pride" in the face of discrimination becomes pretty obvious.

omg let's not get into these comparisons please

I *agree* with you that the asexual pride *movement* is dumb for all the reasons that you state, I'm just saying it's entirely obvious why they're doing it: to make themselves feel better.

I just think the "proud of what? DOES NOT COMPUTE" pose you're striking is disingenuous I guess

really don't care about any of this tho, it's a silly argument, soz

It's really up to asexuals to decide whether they feel alienated by society to the extent that they would find value in asserting "pride" in their nonstandard sexual orientation.

to what extent tho

identity politics, never as good as the first time

otoh if you want to play you should prob. come out as something not not-something

isn't that the ultimate though

oh wait no it isn't

the non-rapist pride community is begin to assert itself

nigger, faggot, kike, greaser

what, like the Fonz?

it must be difficult to develop close relationships if you don't do sex.

it seems a strange thing to take pride in

The same could be said for anything one had no hand in.

ok i've gone from by jove, aimless, you're correct to more power to them, we need more awareness about sexual variance, not less.

I regularly persecute asexuals

they all probably buy their own houses and don't carpool

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xp zing!

what happens to a boner deferred? does it dry up like a raisin in the sun?

http://asexualnews.com/index.php/asexuality-101/676-demiromantic-asexuals

Acephobia and Asexophobia are the Asexual equivalents of Homophobia. Although neither of these words have gained any official recognition outside of the Asexual community, the words are easy enough to dissect. The terms refer to fear of Asexuals and Asexuality. Examples of this can be found, although the term itself is somewhat misleading. Even people who use the term homophobia are often refer to acts motivated by hatred.

Acephobia

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ucXNr3si5F4/UHLoPXiKAzI/AAAAAAAAc04/hHZF0pOqY9w/s1600/ace-ventura-screaming_510.jpg

I suspect there's substantial overlap between asexuals those taking higher dose SSRIs.

You wouldn't frequent a theater that never played the third reel, either.

I never knew "involuntary celibacy" was an actual category (or at least one worthy of a wikipedia entry). Funny, I've been using that exact term to describe myself for the last while. Anyways, I generally don't tell people I'm a still sexually inactive 25 year old since most people would probably just look at me funny. Obviously that's not a grain of sand compared to daily homophobia, but sadly you can't underestimate how deeply rooted normative ideas about sexuality can be and how petty people can be about anything that veers off course.

I passed as gay in high school and my brief sojourn in the military, can't say the abuse/derision really differs - though how its taken certainly does: I had a lot more sympathy to those who were born gay, being merely effeminate (largely due to an absence of male role models in my life) myself.

yeah i think the hostility toward asexuality shown in this thread is justification enough for their wanting a pride movement. "persecution" happens in subtle as well as overt ways and people should be allowed to be concerned with the former if they feel it affects them. i really cannot see the downside of an asexual pride movement and think it is gross for people who are ostensibly not part of that community saying it is "weird". sorry aimless, i generally really love your posts, but your views on this issue are off the mark.

The thing is -- in the case of people who (lgbtq or not) are subject to e.g. homophobia, there's a continuum from violent gaybashing (and premeditated murder) to everyday casual homophobic slurs that leave people feeling like they'll never be accepted, and when people experience homophobic treatment along that continuum it evokes the rest of the continuum, there's always the sense that the escalation is there in potentia. In the case of people who are subject to "acephobia", that continuum would be much shorter: sure, people who deviate from the social-romantic norm can get treated like they are weird and wrong, and can feel that they'll never be accepted. I get that people can live in social worlds where there is a lot of pressure to partner up, and to be romantically and sexually active, and that it feels like social support is withdrawn if you don't do this. But no-one's going to see you walking down the street not holding hands with someone who you're not sleeping with and solely on the basis of that decide to kick your head in.

The society that we presently live in really overemphasises the primacy of the romantic-sexual couple, and it seems like people have looked back into their own family pasts and interpreted every maiden aunt and every confirmed bachelor and every dissatisfied spouse, and decided to code them all as people who were frustrated in their sexual desires. It's very likely that for many of them the presence/absence of sex wasn't the problem -- the things that concerned them in life could have been material, economic, spiritual. But we are a culture that thinks in terms of two-person households and love marriages, of nuclear families rather than multi-generational, of sexual self-discovery as a form of personal fulfilment, that the sex one has reflects and forms the self that one is. It's a corrective against previous generations' attitudes, and in a few generations people will understand the world (not just the present, but historically) through a different lens.

so of course people feel put-upon by society at large! it is a sad irony that we live in a world where people are expected to preemptively define themselves by sexuality so 'not being interested in sexuality' becomes itself a sexuality! but... no-one is nailbombing a pub because they think you are a moral degenerate.

Treeship, I can endure your disapproval, so long as you understand that I was not saying that asexuality itself was weird, but rather that asexuals encouraging one another to join together in a social movement to assert communal pride in their asexuality struck me as weird, basically for the reasons c sharp major articulates so well in his post. I can see that asexuality might be ill understood in society, and asexuals might feel somewhat unaccepted, but by taking on the trappings of earlier movements such as black pride and gay pride they implicitly claim to be in a similar situation. They aren't.

It seems to me that an asexual pride movement falls closer in the social spectrum to a theoretical movement for freckle pride than to, for example, gay pride. While I, too, can see no downside to this theoretical movement of the freckled to assert their right not to be ostracized for their freckles and I cannot claim to be a member of this group, and while freckled people might certainly feel that their freckles mark them out in society and the presence of freckles affects them (all the criteria you specified) I would persist on thinking it weird if some freckled people started agitating for freckle pride as societywide movement. Gross of me, I know, but I'd still feel that way.

basically for the reasons c sharp major articulates so well in his post

insert your own 'cisgender assumption' joke heeeere

proud of yourself, are ya

why yes, I am, slightly

*disapproving glare*