"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

Isn't this new behavior for Hurley's visitations? Like they never had a makeover, or their own squad car before.

Ghost of Charlie had a haircut and some natty new threads.

This series is going to revolve around Faraday the way the last one revolved around Ben, isn't it? He seems to be the key figure of the 'island's flashbacks' - think we'll get one time jump in every episode from now on. Can't wait til they run into Ben.

Charlotte had better not be dead, I want to know what the deal is with her backstory. Although admittedly her being dead won't actually prevent that, we'll see kid Charlotte at some point.

The bit about Locke creating this sort of self-fufilling fake Leader loop is a big deal I think. Seems to be distracting Richard from looking for the real Others Messiah or whatever (Walt, it's so clearly Walt).

well I have been told I make a good wingman.. but I do not adhere to the rules of the bro code!

I deserved that, PB

It'll be weird if Charlotte dies before we even really get to know her.

It happened to Zoe Bell's character who walked off the side of Widmore's boat (I'm still bitter about that).

Yeah, that was a real bummer. Stupid strike. :(

I'm still optimistic that they're going to bring her character back at some point, even if it is only within a flashback narrative.

The bit about Locke creating this sort of self-fufilling fake Leader loop is a big deal I think. Seems to be distracting Richard from looking for the real Others Messiah or whatever (Walt, it's so clearly Walt).

Yes yes yes. This would be awesome.
Right at the start of this episode I was pissed off because I was sure it was another 'Jack flying kites in Thailand' box of crap. But no hurray it's still brilliant!

They really need to give Locke some better lines. "Or maybe... a more appropriate question would be... WHEN have I been, hner hner hner?" Idiot. Also Richard specifically told him that next time he saw him he wouldn't recognise him. So I guess somewhere (or... someWHEN) along the line from 1954 to now they worked out the time travelling thing to their advantage.

Who was the mysterious guy poking around Faraday's lab?

Lol from lostpedia:
"After instructing her to push, Penny successfully gives birth to a baby boy, which leads the couple to kiss and profess their love to each other. "

I thought Zoe Bell was only cast so she could jump off the side of the freighter?

Sadly yes - and to talk over the radio in random episodes. God knows why they put her in the opening credits for Season 4 if that's all they were going to give her.

Who was the mysterious guy poking around Faraday's lab?

some low-level widmore flunky I figured

Has anyone dead reappeared who was not buried on the island? Maybe the island makes zombies, and locke needs to be interred so he can join zombieland.

Maybe Jacob is zombie Locke from the future? Jeremy Bentham Locke = Jacob Elk Hymen Meter. Didn't Locke shoot an Elk with his fake dad?

I just fucking realized that the Penny/Dez baby could actually be named after its grandfather.

This series is going to revolve around Faraday the way the last one revolved around Ben, isn't it?

I actually like the fact that characters introduced in SSNs 2 (Des, Ben) 3 (Alpert) & 4 (Faraday, Miles?) have become as integral to the show as the original 815ers are. Faraday hasn't even had a proper flashback episode & he's a better character than all of the original 815ers save Locke.

Faraday is great. Liked the love story even with him. Great actor.

I'm also sorrt Finefinemusic for mockery, nothing personal, just dumb goofing off on a thread.

sorry*

drunk*

could be nothing, could be EVERYTHING, this woman was in last night's episode (uni library) and is also the woman who told Hurley it was his lucky day/she got him onto flight 815:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u209/sawyer1313/Jenna.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u209/sawyer1313/Moria.jpg

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:09 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok that is definitely something
they would NOT go all l&o repeat offenders style with something where every detail is so important, would they?

― tehresa, Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:13 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i know a lady who was an extra two or three times before getting a speaking role and she said that they now (season 4 onward i guess)no longer re-use actors or extras for even the smallest parts unless its intentional

the other thing I was thinking last night. isn't it handy that Oxford University is just basically a cloister walk and a library? apparently the design was based on a Scottish wine making monastery

x-post I wanted Widmore to be 500 year old son of Alvar Hanso or something yeah

― Local Garda, Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:28 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

posted this before, but there's not much on Oahu that looks like that: http://www.lostvirtualtour.com/lost/filming_locations/standrews/index.html

dope site if any of you haven't checked it out^^

or maybe i only think its cool cause i can see the real life locations

where the hell is smokey hiding during all this? how come it's not out kicking time-space ass? would love to see some raptors on the island due to some time travelin. Is Bea the crazy black woman who isn't rose? the weird metaphysical one

― gustywindsmayexist, Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:52 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh hai guess what else was filmed in that same valley:
http://www.petesmoviepage.com/Jurassic/galrun.jpg

did you really need three separate posts to brag

its all i really bring to the table

ok how baout the painting in widmore's office:

http://i.iimmgg.com/images/gr/53126a57de8b6dafdba4f58f8f396627.jpg

# The painting in the receptionist's area outside Charles Widmore's office appears to have been inspired by Jackson Pollock. Jughead aired on Pollock's birthday.
# The same painting as previously seen in "Flashes Before Your Eyes" can be seen on Widmore's right wall in his office, at the opposite of where it used to be several years prior. This painting has the phrase "Namaste" painted on it, along with a polar bear and what appear to be mountains and palm trees in the background.

-Lostpedia

sorry:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x18/gr8080/53126a57de8b6dafdba4f58f8f396627.jpg

also cuet 1954 gun toting Ellie is so obviously Ms. Hawking/Daniel's Mom

did they intentionally not pick 1955 to avoid back to the future crossover paradox?

In the season four premiere, the first scene with Faraday has him crying in front of that TV report about the fake flight 815 discovery, and isn't there a woman's voice in the background who you don't get to see on camera? That'll be his girlfriend from this episode, then.

The most lolsome moment this week was Desmond parking his boat on a badly-CGIed jetty in the middle of the Thames right next to the London Eye.

guys you're kind of missing the obvious connection here: the episode is called "jughead"

jughead - hurley (NOT in the episode, significantly)
archie - jack
mr weatherbee - locke (bald)
betty - juliet
veronica - kate (perfect love triangle there)
reggie - sawyer
dilton - faraday
mr. lodge - widmore

i mean it breaks down perfectly

How long do you think it will be before we get to see Island Future? I reckon quite a way through the series and that the Oceanic Six will be in it, on the Island. My current theory is that in leaving the Island, the O6 have broken with the future they're supposed to have and the Island is going haywire as a result, and that's what will kill Sawyer/Juliet etc if they don't go back. I'm pretty sure this isn't an original theory but can't remember where I heard it first.

Love the Namaste painting, it looks like the top of a face next to the polar bear - maybe Locke's? Or Jacob... or maybe it's just a monkey.

I'm wondering-- the Others pretty quickly picked off a team of US Soldiers. I wonder why it took them so long to oust Dharma. Perhaps they didn't perceive Dharma as a threat initially. I wonder if Dharma built the security fence right when they first showed up or after their fighting with the Others began.

i thought the island was going haywire because ben moved it with a freaking donkey wheel! maybe he just did not return it to its proper position so it's glitching every now and then.

about the frozen donkey wheel... richard didn't seem to know about the island's time-travel capabilities when he met locke, which begs the question - if the Others didn't know about the donkey wheel, then who built it? It seemed that Dharma only built a time machine on top of it but that the wheel itself was much, much older.

also i think the time-jumpers are going to start mentally time-jumping - five-year-old locke drew the smoke-monster which could be because he was getting memories from his future.

think that goes back to how or why the island has powers in the first place .... seems like humans didn't invent the powers, they just discovered em

probably will have something to do with the Temple, the giant foot statue, and the explanation of who/what Jacob is

xpost - interesting

maybe all those flashbacks were really time jumps!
not likely but would be lol.

I'm still postulating that the island is an alien spaceship and Jacob is the computer.

I really liked the circular existence of the compass. I'm looking forward to future plotlines invovling Jughead in the future. You don't introduce a sword in act 1 if it's not used in act 3. The Locke leader self-prophecy theory upthread is a good one.

Is Faraday trying to make himself Charlotte's constant with his sweet talk?

certainly he knows better than that since he is desmond's!

he can be both? desmond's constants are faraday and penny.

Penny is Desmond's constant, Desmond is Faraday's constant. As far as we know they only have one each.

oh id idn't realize constants weren't mutual!

I don't think Charlotte is unstuck in time Desmond-style by the way, because then they tend to go blank and zombie-like for several minutes while their mind goes off to another era. Charlotte had been walking around perfectly fine, albeit with a headache and a nosebleed.

maybe she just has really sensitive nasal arteries

Or a bad coke habit.

Charlotte isn't going blank because she's jumping through both time and space whereas Des is just jumping through time.

WAIT... this could mean that from the time-jumpers point of view they're "flashing" through time when in reality, they're actually taking a much longer time to jump from one era to another. so maybe by their latest flash, it HAS in fact been about three years since the island was moved.

Charlotte's also having memory issues, which could be a bit like Daniel's memory issues (and he prob had those because of his own experiments/exposure to radiation).

Was Alpert referring to Jacob when Locke told him that he was their leader in the future and Alpert replied that they choose their leader carefully etc and that they have a chain of command? Who is the chain?!!?!

Well, Locke had just told him that "Jacob sent me" so Richard was probably saying that Jacob doesn't just "send" us a new leader.