"I Hope You're Happy Now, Jacob"--The LOST Season 5 Thread

Misdirection is a big problem on this show so it could be either/or. Mikhail stated at the beginning of his introduction that he was the last surviving Dharma member and had a deal with the others w/r/t not moving beyond his little plot of land.

Well, Lostpedia says Before he was revealed as being one of the Others, he had claimed to be a member of the DHARMA Initiative, but later confessed that this was not true. ("Enter 77") so I suppose I am incorrect here.

this is what Bea said to Mikhail:

(Translated from Russian)

--Beatrice: "We can't risk it, you know the rules."

--Mikhail: "There's still a way out."

--Beatrice: "We won't let them into the territory. You know what to do. It is an order."

--Beatrice: "(English) Just do it, Mikhail!"

(Mikhail takes aim at Beatrice)

--Mikhail: "(English) Forgive me"

(Mikhail shoots Beatrice) ”

("Enter 77")

where the hell is smokey hiding during all this? how come it's not out kicking time-space ass? would love to see some raptors on the island due to some time travelin. Is Bea the crazy black woman who isn't rose? the weird metaphysical one

I guess it depends on who controls Smokey & when they got control.

So how did the US Military find the island? And why did they think it was a good location for an H-Bomb?

Tell us more about this HORSE theory. How does this reconcile with POLAR BEAR? Didn't Walt conjure them up with his crazy psych powers from that Spanish edition comic of The Punisher punching out the Polar Bear?

the polar bear was really there.

polar bear was a dharma psych experiment, they were kept in those big cages Sawyer and Kate were in, etc

pretty sure the polar bear is actually locke unstuck in time

Unstuck-in-time losties represented by their power animals? - yes, please continue to elaborate on this awesome theory.

Vincent is actually future Walt.

the polar bear is actually the horse, unstuck in time

Who is the cow, seen by Frank in Season 04 (and don't say Hurley FFS)?

Juliet, of course.

Maybe the cow is the reincarnated Mr. Friendly?

um i think the cow is the polar bear

that is ridiculous everyone knows that cows and polar bears are mortal enemies

Can cow defeat polar bear?

apparently the design was based on a Scottish wine making monastery

Also that church type place where Charlie and his brother agreed to carry on with the band.

Eloise was also the name of Daniel's lab rat, btw.

(That bit is true, I'm not trolling).

Gee max, I'm starting to feel a little hurt. Got anything interesting to say about the episode or you just want to continue to riff on what I thought was an interesting idea on a show known for smoke monsters, psychics who urge single mothers to get on planes in their 8th month, and dead parents running around an island?

It's easy to LOL all over things but much more interesting to hear some theories and discuss ideas related to the show. At least post pictures of hot people if you're not going to contribute to the discussion.

I thought AnaL was looking pretty hot with those wispy bangs in the last episode:
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/thumb/1/12/5x02_AVisitFromAna.jpg/800px-5x02_AVisitFromAna.jpg

Going back to the knowledge of young Widmoria on the island - the pregnancy test we saw on the show, used by Sun, was a Widmore one. If he can't find the island, I wonder how his company's product did? I feel like Henry Gale's balloon may also have had a Widmore logo on it, maybe one that (IIRC) couldn't be seen as clearly as the producers had intended..

sorry no offense intended

that's a wig bro, she's bald headed

i'm a lady cutty :P
no worries max I was feeling a bit ostracized though! thank you for being nice :)

the picture of Ana Lucia I posted is not terrific but I thought she looked 100% better than she ever did on the show (flashback or island).

whatever bro

no worries max I was feeling a bit ostracized ostrichized - aha! now we are getting somewhere!

(runs, hides)

Isn't this new behavior for Hurley's visitations? Like they never had a makeover, or their own squad car before.

Ghost of Charlie had a haircut and some natty new threads.

This series is going to revolve around Faraday the way the last one revolved around Ben, isn't it? He seems to be the key figure of the 'island's flashbacks' - think we'll get one time jump in every episode from now on. Can't wait til they run into Ben.

Charlotte had better not be dead, I want to know what the deal is with her backstory. Although admittedly her being dead won't actually prevent that, we'll see kid Charlotte at some point.

The bit about Locke creating this sort of self-fufilling fake Leader loop is a big deal I think. Seems to be distracting Richard from looking for the real Others Messiah or whatever (Walt, it's so clearly Walt).

well I have been told I make a good wingman.. but I do not adhere to the rules of the bro code!

I deserved that, PB

It'll be weird if Charlotte dies before we even really get to know her.

It happened to Zoe Bell's character who walked off the side of Widmore's boat (I'm still bitter about that).

Yeah, that was a real bummer. Stupid strike. :(

I'm still optimistic that they're going to bring her character back at some point, even if it is only within a flashback narrative.

The bit about Locke creating this sort of self-fufilling fake Leader loop is a big deal I think. Seems to be distracting Richard from looking for the real Others Messiah or whatever (Walt, it's so clearly Walt).

Yes yes yes. This would be awesome.
Right at the start of this episode I was pissed off because I was sure it was another 'Jack flying kites in Thailand' box of crap. But no hurray it's still brilliant!

They really need to give Locke some better lines. "Or maybe... a more appropriate question would be... WHEN have I been, hner hner hner?" Idiot. Also Richard specifically told him that next time he saw him he wouldn't recognise him. So I guess somewhere (or... someWHEN) along the line from 1954 to now they worked out the time travelling thing to their advantage.

Who was the mysterious guy poking around Faraday's lab?

Lol from lostpedia:
"After instructing her to push, Penny successfully gives birth to a baby boy, which leads the couple to kiss and profess their love to each other. "

I thought Zoe Bell was only cast so she could jump off the side of the freighter?

Sadly yes - and to talk over the radio in random episodes. God knows why they put her in the opening credits for Season 4 if that's all they were going to give her.

Who was the mysterious guy poking around Faraday's lab?

some low-level widmore flunky I figured

Has anyone dead reappeared who was not buried on the island? Maybe the island makes zombies, and locke needs to be interred so he can join zombieland.

Maybe Jacob is zombie Locke from the future? Jeremy Bentham Locke = Jacob Elk Hymen Meter. Didn't Locke shoot an Elk with his fake dad?

I just fucking realized that the Penny/Dez baby could actually be named after its grandfather.

This series is going to revolve around Faraday the way the last one revolved around Ben, isn't it?

I actually like the fact that characters introduced in SSNs 2 (Des, Ben) 3 (Alpert) & 4 (Faraday, Miles?) have become as integral to the show as the original 815ers are. Faraday hasn't even had a proper flashback episode & he's a better character than all of the original 815ers save Locke.

Faraday is great. Liked the love story even with him. Great actor.

I'm also sorrt Finefinemusic for mockery, nothing personal, just dumb goofing off on a thread.

sorry*

drunk*

could be nothing, could be EVERYTHING, this woman was in last night's episode (uni library) and is also the woman who told Hurley it was his lucky day/she got him onto flight 815:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u209/sawyer1313/Jenna.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u209/sawyer1313/Moria.jpg

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:09 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok that is definitely something
they would NOT go all l&o repeat offenders style with something where every detail is so important, would they?

― tehresa, Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:13 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i know a lady who was an extra two or three times before getting a speaking role and she said that they now (season 4 onward i guess)no longer re-use actors or extras for even the smallest parts unless its intentional

the other thing I was thinking last night. isn't it handy that Oxford University is just basically a cloister walk and a library? apparently the design was based on a Scottish wine making monastery

x-post I wanted Widmore to be 500 year old son of Alvar Hanso or something yeah

― Local Garda, Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:28 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

posted this before, but there's not much on Oahu that looks like that: http://www.lostvirtualtour.com/lost/filming_locations/standrews/index.html

dope site if any of you haven't checked it out^^