what i don't get is why juliet calls the others "others"
that doesn't make much sense does it
― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah agreed with that...tho she does do it kind of jokingly/mockingly towards the losties it still feels a bit awkward.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i think because when she first met the castaways Hurley and Sawyer called her an Other.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post I know why he didn't shoot young Widmore, but the writers have given us many scenes where Locke didn't pull a gun trigger (last night, the undercover cop, when Jack had the radio) & several other scene where he kills people with his knife. Given that choosing the knife is what upset Richard, it seems somewhat significant.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
hmmm, the knife thing DOES sound pretty interesting! gotta re-watch some old episodes.. the only time I can think of an other killing an other was Mikhail/patchy and Mrs. Klugh? But then they both seemed to have Dharma in their histories..
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
who else has Locke killed besides Naomi? he couldn't kill his dad with a knife.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Mikhail also killed the Aqua Hotties.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Locke killed a dude with his knife last week.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
but that was before he knew that guy was an Other. and all the people he's threatened to shoot and didn't are people he has some affection for anyway. i get what you're saying tho.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha yes, the Aqua hotties.. But Mikhail did say he was the last living Dharma member so he doesn't really count.has Locke killed anyone with a gun that we've seen? Perhaps he doesn't like technology.. he did bring a suitcase full of knives with him, he may just have way more practice/skill with a knife.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
It's possibly just lazy writing-- Knife flying out of nowhere equals badass Locke.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
The thing w/ Young Widmore killing his buddy reminded me of the Klugh/Mikhail thing in that they implied that they were supposed to kill themselves if captured. Widmore was sort helping the other guy hold up his end.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think Mikhail was ever actually a Dharma member, though, was he? Wasn't it pretty clear that Ben killed all of them? I think ol' Eyepatch was just a straight-up Other.
― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah. He initially told Locke, Sayid, and Kate that he was the last surviving member of DHARMA but then later admitted it wasn't true.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Misdirection is a big problem on this show so it could be either/or. Mikhail stated at the beginning of his introduction that he was the last surviving Dharma member and had a deal with the others w/r/t not moving beyond his little plot of land.
Well, Lostpedia says Before he was revealed as being one of the Others, he had claimed to be a member of the DHARMA Initiative, but later confessed that this was not true. ("Enter 77") so I suppose I am incorrect here.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
this is what Bea said to Mikhail:
(Translated from Russian)
--Beatrice: "We can't risk it, you know the rules."
--Mikhail: "There's still a way out."
--Beatrice: "We won't let them into the territory. You know what to do. It is an order."
--Beatrice: "(English) Just do it, Mikhail!"
(Mikhail takes aim at Beatrice)
--Mikhail: "(English) Forgive me"
(Mikhail shoots Beatrice) ”
("Enter 77")
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link
where the hell is smokey hiding during all this? how come it's not out kicking time-space ass? would love to see some raptors on the island due to some time travelin. Is Bea the crazy black woman who isn't rose? the weird metaphysical one
― gustywindsmayexist, Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess it depends on who controls Smokey & when they got control.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
So how did the US Military find the island? And why did they think it was a good location for an H-Bomb?
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Tell us more about this HORSE theory. How does this reconcile with POLAR BEAR? Didn't Walt conjure them up with his crazy psych powers from that Spanish edition comic of The Punisher punching out the Polar Bear?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
the polar bear was really there.
― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
polar bear was a dharma psych experiment, they were kept in those big cages Sawyer and Kate were in, etc
― dmr, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
pretty sure the polar bear is actually locke unstuck in time
― max, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Unstuck-in-time losties represented by their power animals? - yes, please continue to elaborate on this awesome theory.
― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Vincent is actually future Walt.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
the polar bear is actually the horse, unstuck in time
― max, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Who is the cow, seen by Frank in Season 04 (and don't say Hurley FFS)?
― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Juliet, of course.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe the cow is the reincarnated Mr. Friendly?
― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
um i think the cow is the polar bear
― max, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
that is ridiculous everyone knows that cows and polar bears are mortal enemies
― CLAPSOCK (John Justen), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Can cow defeat polar bear?
― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
apparently the design was based on a Scottish wine making monastery
Also that church type place where Charlie and his brother agreed to carry on with the band.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Eloise was also the name of Daniel's lab rat, btw.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
(That bit is true, I'm not trolling).
Gee max, I'm starting to feel a little hurt. Got anything interesting to say about the episode or you just want to continue to riff on what I thought was an interesting idea on a show known for smoke monsters, psychics who urge single mothers to get on planes in their 8th month, and dead parents running around an island?
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
It's easy to LOL all over things but much more interesting to hear some theories and discuss ideas related to the show. At least post pictures of hot people if you're not going to contribute to the discussion.
I thought AnaL was looking pretty hot with those wispy bangs in the last episode:http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/thumb/1/12/5x02_AVisitFromAna.jpg/800px-5x02_AVisitFromAna.jpg
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Going back to the knowledge of young Widmoria on the island - the pregnancy test we saw on the show, used by Sun, was a Widmore one. If he can't find the island, I wonder how his company's product did? I feel like Henry Gale's balloon may also have had a Widmore logo on it, maybe one that (IIRC) couldn't be seen as clearly as the producers had intended..
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry no offense intended
― max, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
that's a wig bro, she's bald headed
― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm a lady cutty :P no worries max I was feeling a bit ostracized though! thank you for being nice :)
the picture of Ana Lucia I posted is not terrific but I thought she looked 100% better than she ever did on the show (flashback or island).
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
whatever bro
― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
no worries max I was feeling a bit ostracized ostrichized - aha! now we are getting somewhere!
(runs, hides)
― Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Isn't this new behavior for Hurley's visitations? Like they never had a makeover, or their own squad car before.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Ghost of Charlie had a haircut and some natty new threads.
This series is going to revolve around Faraday the way the last one revolved around Ben, isn't it? He seems to be the key figure of the 'island's flashbacks' - think we'll get one time jump in every episode from now on. Can't wait til they run into Ben.
Charlotte had better not be dead, I want to know what the deal is with her backstory. Although admittedly her being dead won't actually prevent that, we'll see kid Charlotte at some point.
The bit about Locke creating this sort of self-fufilling fake Leader loop is a big deal I think. Seems to be distracting Richard from looking for the real Others Messiah or whatever (Walt, it's so clearly Walt).
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
well I have been told I make a good wingman.. but I do not adhere to the rules of the bro code!
I deserved that, PB
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link
It'll be weird if Charlotte dies before we even really get to know her.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
It happened to Zoe Bell's character who walked off the side of Widmore's boat (I'm still bitter about that).
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 January 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link