x-post was hoping you'd go there...plus horse=heroin...charlie is involved in this too. tho note strictly, charlie is not black.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
AND Charlie was addicted to heroin, which is also called "horse."
lol xpost
― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/1/1f/Katehorse.jpg
"quit strokin and get me a bucket of oats freckles"
― Local Garda, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
H=8 O=15
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
cHarlielOckesawyeRSayidkatE
do you see where im going here
― max, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link
come on max, they are hardly going to make it that easy.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
HaveOurRatingsSatisfied theExecutives?
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
looking forward to the horse season
― Local Garda, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
okay max I'm cutting you off. there was some good stuff being discussed here! I wrote a lot and hoped people would comment on the stuff I brought up :P
did anyone see the preview with Sawyer saying he saw Kate that prompted the horse theory?
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
yes--he said, "i saw kate, and then i turned into a horse"
― max, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
anyway I hope that the time-skipping Sawyer & crew are "the whispers" that the Losties keep hearing and that they'll show a spooky, whispers-filled scene that we've already seen, this time from the time-skippers' point of view.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
To be fair I have to say I thought after that episode that Sawyer did look like say, I dunno, 5 per cent more like a horse.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
but it was the one alpert gave him, obv a remnant of pirate times.
ok so now alpert would have two compasses. which is... useful.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
the next episode is called The Little Prince, I hope they are not referring to Aaron.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
charlie hume >>>> aaron littleton/austen
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
they are referring to max
― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Little Princess morelike, amIrite?
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
lol I was a step behind last night and forgot the new chick's name was Ellie
but ok if Ellie = Eloise Hawking = Daniel's mother ... then maybe Widmore = Daniel's father?
could explain why he funded his research for years (although obv. he could have funded it for other reasons, but still)
― dmr, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Is it meaningful that Locke can kill people with knives but is seemingly unable to shoot a gun at anyone?
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link
still not convinced that Ellie = Eloise, the name should've given him a clue surely.
btw, what kind of guy names his rat after his mother?
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
locke didn't know who those people where when he was throwin knife
― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link
^seems to the be the key with Locke and killing people. I'm still not 100% sure Naomi was evil...
My questions are: if the likely is true, that Ms. Hawking is Faraday's mother, how does Widmore know her? From the island in 1954, if she is Elly? But since she's on Team Ben now, aren't they on opposite sides? If so, why send Desmond to her at all? There are a lot of directions this can go...
― Nhex, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link
or Widmore could just know her like Desmond said - he had been funding Faraday's research for ten years so maybe he knew Dan's next-of-kin.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link
i hate all these similar names on Lost. like both Ben and Locke's mothers being named Emily.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Locke chose not to kill Widmore because he is "one of his people" and yet Widmore didn't hesitate in the slightest to kill the guy he was with. I think that was an important correlation.
Perhaps Eloise and Charles had a nasty separation? In the enhanced version of The Lie, they said that Ms. Hawking's first name is Eloise.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link
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― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link
oh i see hwat you are saying. the others have killed each other before in such situations.
― cutty, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
sawyer is obv a werehorse and the rat evolves via time travelin into daniels mother ok
― CLAPSOCK (John Justen), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean duh guys come on try to keep up
what i don't get is why juliet calls the others "others"
that doesn't make much sense does it
yeah agreed with that...tho she does do it kind of jokingly/mockingly towards the losties it still feels a bit awkward.
― Local Garda, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i think because when she first met the castaways Hurley and Sawyer called her an Other.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post I know why he didn't shoot young Widmore, but the writers have given us many scenes where Locke didn't pull a gun trigger (last night, the undercover cop, when Jack had the radio) & several other scene where he kills people with his knife. Given that choosing the knife is what upset Richard, it seems somewhat significant.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
hmmm, the knife thing DOES sound pretty interesting! gotta re-watch some old episodes.. the only time I can think of an other killing an other was Mikhail/patchy and Mrs. Klugh? But then they both seemed to have Dharma in their histories..
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
who else has Locke killed besides Naomi? he couldn't kill his dad with a knife.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Mikhail also killed the Aqua Hotties.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Locke killed a dude with his knife last week.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link
but that was before he knew that guy was an Other. and all the people he's threatened to shoot and didn't are people he has some affection for anyway. i get what you're saying tho.
― Disco/Very (Roz), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha yes, the Aqua hotties.. But Mikhail did say he was the last living Dharma member so he doesn't really count.has Locke killed anyone with a gun that we've seen? Perhaps he doesn't like technology.. he did bring a suitcase full of knives with him, he may just have way more practice/skill with a knife.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link
It's possibly just lazy writing-- Knife flying out of nowhere equals badass Locke.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
The thing w/ Young Widmore killing his buddy reminded me of the Klugh/Mikhail thing in that they implied that they were supposed to kill themselves if captured. Widmore was sort helping the other guy hold up his end.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think Mikhail was ever actually a Dharma member, though, was he? Wasn't it pretty clear that Ben killed all of them? I think ol' Eyepatch was just a straight-up Other.
― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah. He initially told Locke, Sayid, and Kate that he was the last surviving member of DHARMA but then later admitted it wasn't true.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Misdirection is a big problem on this show so it could be either/or. Mikhail stated at the beginning of his introduction that he was the last surviving Dharma member and had a deal with the others w/r/t not moving beyond his little plot of land.
Well, Lostpedia says Before he was revealed as being one of the Others, he had claimed to be a member of the DHARMA Initiative, but later confessed that this was not true. ("Enter 77") so I suppose I am incorrect here.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
this is what Bea said to Mikhail:
(Translated from Russian)
--Beatrice: "We can't risk it, you know the rules."
--Mikhail: "There's still a way out."
--Beatrice: "We won't let them into the territory. You know what to do. It is an order."
--Beatrice: "(English) Just do it, Mikhail!"
(Mikhail takes aim at Beatrice)
--Mikhail: "(English) Forgive me"
(Mikhail shoots Beatrice) ”
("Enter 77")
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link
where the hell is smokey hiding during all this? how come it's not out kicking time-space ass? would love to see some raptors on the island due to some time travelin. Is Bea the crazy black woman who isn't rose? the weird metaphysical one
― gustywindsmayexist, Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess it depends on who controls Smokey & when they got control.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
So how did the US Military find the island? And why did they think it was a good location for an H-Bomb?
― President Keyes, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Tell us more about this HORSE theory. How does this reconcile with POLAR BEAR? Didn't Walt conjure them up with his crazy psych powers from that Spanish edition comic of The Punisher punching out the Polar Bear?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 29 January 2009 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link