fwiw the OP is complaining about me by name on their twitter account. i guess i get to join the club.― Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:57 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkyou should retweet― some dude, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:59 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkguilty of being a dick SM, but eh that's what happened. Nobody owns threads, suicide wasn't a huge intangential leap.― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:00 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkdone xp― Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:00 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkOh, I had that happen before too! Fun, huh?― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:02 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:57 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you should retweet
― some dude, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:59 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
guilty of being a dick SM, but eh that's what happened. Nobody owns threads, suicide wasn't a huge intangential leap.
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:00 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
done xp
― Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:00 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh, I had that happen before too! Fun, huh?
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:02 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
indeed.
― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
Lol wcc actin like she's the fuckin mayor mccheese of psuedo philosophical faux suicide threads
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
but get back to me later, it's a pretty appealing idea
It really is! But even more appealing is a "do-over" button. If I could cast my current consciousness back in time into my body -- say, when I was 11 and we moved from CA to MS -- I would do that without even bothering to say goodbye to anybody here first. Well, maybe a couple of people.
― WmC, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
oh hell yeah wmc, just lmme grab these lotto numbers first
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think I'd do a do-over. There's stuff I'd change, for sure, but I think there's too much stuff in my childhood that I had no real control over that got me to where I am today. I'd still just be dealing with the same underlying shit.
― Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno the "do over" button would involve too much paedophilia.
― ^ sarcasm (ken c), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
I've never seriously thought of suicide, but if the button-device were just lying around the house... I dunno, I might eventually press it just out of curiosity, to see whether it was the real-deal, to resolve the tension of the unpressed button, because it's a forbidden button to be pressed.
― jim, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
xp How much is too much?
― Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
i would throw it into the ocean (dramatically)
― ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
Seal in lead box, solder shut, tie to cinderblock, throw in ocean off cliff at tip of Patagonia where no one goes.
― purveyor of generations (in orbit), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
The "do-over" concept is fascinating. Part of me finds it massively appealing, and part of me finds it horrific.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
the interesting thing about 'do-over' is that you'd kind of have a leg up on controlling certain things about your life, but at a certain point you'd just start making new mistakes and navigating a life that was just as unpredictable as it was the first time.
― some dude, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
great, u just gave bear grylls the ultimate weapon
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
xp How much is too much?― Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:49 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ask Jimmy?
― ^ sarcasm (ken c), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
Getting to keep the memories of adulthood is cheating imo.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
I would love to write a letter to my 11 year old self with a list of books to read
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
Don't mention Jimmy or we'll all get arrested.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, October 12, 2012 2:56 PM (7 minutes ago)
i've daydreamed about this fairly often
― crisp apple morning (clouds), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, October 12, 2012 9:55 AM (8 minutes ago)
That's the only thing that makes it appealing for me though. I certainly wouldn't go through the decade from 11-20 again without knowing what to avoid and who to warn.
― WmC, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
my parents; my brothers
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
exactly!
― WmC, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
to me the part of this that's interesting is the "no consequence to others" - that's magical thinking in a way that the magic button isn't, because the button just doesn't exist but you can imagine how it works. but this added "nobody suffers" benefit could not really exist logically. so it becomes a "would you painlessly kill yourself if it doesn't bum anybody out" question. I think about suicide a lot, but I think the pain it inflicts on people is some bullshit, so I bust ass to keep my head above water at all times on that q. if there were a button that said "nobody even feels bad and the you-who-is-presently-suffering goes away" then yeah there would have been no more me as of, like, last week.
do-overs with or without your added knowledge are fraught with fuckin peril tho. You know some good stuff you might do but unforeseen consequence could take all the sweetness right outta that super-quick.
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
i was imagining this like a "it's a wonderful life" scenario where you just never existed
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
well that makes it real different though - rightly or not, I'm proud of some things I've accomplished, plus I'm a dad, if I never exist at all then I deny existence to a swell little guy who likes to play and yell and make funny faces - the original q posits no ill consequences to others
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
A large part of my current happiness is looking back at what a strange messed-up kid I was and how OK I turned out regardless
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeesh
a large part of my current happiness is my car </mygodiamshallow>
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
Also, going back to age 11 with all current knowledge means you have to hang out with teenagers for eight fucking years, no thank you.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
plus you'd be one of those terrible teenagers who believes they're an 'old soul,' which would be insufferable even if technically correct in that case
― some dude, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgEfYGzojcA
― Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Our parents and teachers would recognize our sudden precocity and bump us ahead to college. Then we'd spend the rest of adolescence inexplicably failing to develop any further, plummet into depression, finally request the button-man to undo the do-over.
― jim, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
^ thought that has occurred to me manys the time when musing on the 'back to my teenage body' thing
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
It's interesting, the liminality that these conversations create, to both exist and not-exist, to be an adult and also a child, to eat an oyster and also a pizza
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
lj??
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm afraid of not existing. OP doesn't strike me as narcissistic...seems kind of enviable to be able to think about something so huge as not existing and being of no consequence to others and just hit the button and be gone. Because that's not something you do on the spur of the moment when you've stubbed your toe on the kitchen table for the 20th time. That's a thought you've been staring down for a long time and hitting that button would be pretty, well I dunno if brave is the right word but that's how it seems to me.
Sometimes I wonder if my fear of not existing is a denial of a deep dark wish that I didn't exist. And now I have a headache.
(Also this thread delivered everything I thought it would, and in record time. You guys are getting GOOD at this, lol)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
i dont think there's anything brave at all about hitting the button
― ciderpress, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
thinking out loud, is all
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
Don't care if it's brave, I'm hitting that button. Give it to me.
― emil.y, Friday, 12 October 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
sometimes existence seems like a useless burden but other times i probably foolishly believe i have something like a "purpose" so voted no
― crisp apple morning (clouds), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:43 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if he meant the oyster to be on the pizza I'm sure he'd have said
― it's the Suede/Denim secret police/they have come for your 90s niece (DJ Mencap), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, bravery and cowardice are kinda nonsensical concepts wrt this scenario. Inasmuch as it seems like a decision that's pointedly uninformed by ego (to the extent that we're positing that you'd just be forgotten, or that the cessation of your existence would at least not cause any pain).
FWIW, I'm totally looking forward to the day when this scenario no longer seems at all appealing.
― Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
jesus what a depressing thread
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
Surprise?
― Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
The last time I felt like this I was drunk and maudlin and "oh what's the use, what is the fucking point?" I think at one point I said out loud "I wish I was a hovercraft" or something equally ridiculous. It was a very strange thing to feel and say - I don't know why it came over me that point cos I def don't feel this way 99.999% of the time, even if I'm feeling really low and everything's going to pot.
― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
if only the Duchess of York had been around at the time, you could have starred in a delightful children's book by now
― it's the Suede/Denim secret police/they have come for your 90s niece (DJ Mencap), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
"I wish I was a hovercraft" lol
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 October 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
I guess i can't comment on this thread because although I've often contemplated the possibility of erasing my existence without harming anyone else, it was always in the context of suicidal thoughts or just depression or whatever.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
also - "Pretend it would involve no physical pain to yourself, and no emotional or financial or other repercussions to the people around you. - these are all things directly related to suicide. the question is basically like "pretend you could commit suicide the repercussions of suicide. however, don't mention suicide."
guess i'm being small-minded about this, sorry.
(i too am in favor of letting threads develop organically. lord knows i've started plenty of threads with absurd questions that were luckily saved by other people bending the conversation in a direction that was more interesting for them)
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
ugh, as usual i left out important words and i suck. that should have been "pretend you could commit suicide WITHOUT the repercussions of suicide. however, don't mention suicide."
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
guys, every fucking day is a gift and it's insane to me that any of you think nothing is preferable to EVERYTHINGand now i'm going to take a shower and go to a museum and then go to a cocktail tasting and then see an ilxor and a bunch of other guys perform live music and then go see a woman i'm dating DJ at another museum (not the first museum) and then we're going to go out and have a nice meal and then go home and have sex and sleep and then I'll get up and throw some pottery and then watch the thursday NFL game on tivo that I couldn't watch because I was out at a job interview where i was promised more work and then went to my OTHER pottery class and then went to a big society event food and wine tasting with a gal DJ (not the first gal DJ) and after I'm done with the NFL game while I do some work I'll go to see a maestro of indian tabla and likely have to break up with a woman i love dearly but that i just don't see working out and then I'll go see a series of short films about the Spanish labor movement and then go to the Ukrainian House and eat pickles and watch more music and then i'm going to KEEP FUCKING DOING THIS UNTIL I DIE and rushing that moment is completely beyond my comprehension and although much of life is very sad a great deal more of it is too sweet to even express
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link