it's a question of degree. Marx was heavily involved in the International Working Men's Association.
As political philosophers Marx is incomparably more important and more interesting than Burke.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link
burke is good again: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D56bh3cW0AAfgZU.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:13 (five years ago) link
So what you're saying is that Burke is an unheralded pioneer of conservative humor.
― Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 May 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link
burke as proto-gyles brandreth
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link
radio 4 aesthetic is older than i thought
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 22:11 (five years ago) link
Burke was very good at extracting the very essence of the political thought of his class and age and putting it into the rhetoric of moderate reason.
A country squire might say the poor are a bunch of ignorant rapscallions and when they try to push themselves forward to get more than their natural lot in life they should be kept in their place with a good horsewhipping whenever they get above themselves. But Burke would say something more along the lines of 'while the poor may have the honest virtues of their class, when lifted out of their element and cut off from the restraints of proper society, they easily become warped by passions they do not rightly know how to fulfill or to appease, and may swiftly become a mob without the guidance of either reason or morality, wrecking in haste what they know not how to fix at their leisure.'
It's the same paternalistic aristocratic claptrap, but phrased with elegance, reserve, and an Olympian perspective.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 6 May 2019 23:22 (five years ago) link
Description not criticism, right?
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2019 23:42 (five years ago) link
hes ham-burke
― mark s, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 09:55 (five years ago) link