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he's got a memoirs thing out? at least i saw something that looked like that when i walked by a bookstore the other day.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, i recall reading an article about it in the NYT.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I prefer the Waco Kid.

Branch Davidian compound and Bradley tanks to thread!

Hey, doesn't he have an autobiography out?
Also, I have a theory that maybe he cracked up after his wife, Gilda Radner, died.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Perhaps this will clear things up.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

blazing saddles is a terrible movie, but wilder doesn't really embarrass himself or anything

Good lord you're insane. Blazing Saddles is brilliant.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, I have a theory that maybe he cracked up after his wife, Gilda Radner, died.
I take it back. My version of your theory, that is. I used to go to the Film Forum a lot and each time I would have to walk by Gilda's Place so maybe it was me that couldn't forget about her, not him.

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

i agree with amateurist. blazing saddles isn't all it's cracked up to be. but it's really hard to tell if comedy is still good if it's been ripped off so many times.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Haunted Honeymoon is one of my favorite movies in the whole world.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, and he was in fine style on the "Will and Grace" episode I saw.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 08:39 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i saw th@. he was good in it. and pretending to be crackers if i recall?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link

"i agree with amateurist. blazing saddles isn't all it's cracked up to be. but it's really hard to tell if comedy is still good if it's been ripped off so many times."

Er, surely the fact you'll find yourself laughing will tell you if it's good or not?

Blazing Saddles is comedy gold. Of course it's scattershot, but the vast majority of gags hit. It's sublimely silly, but nevertheless is one of the best films about racism ever made, thanks, in part to Pryor's briliant gags, such as Cleavon Little taunting the Klansmen, "Where the white women at?". Lily Von Stup is great too. The schnitzengruber! Hedley Lamarr and his linguistic flights!

Gene Wilder is great in Saddles. He's supposed to be a bit spaced out after all. He did spook me in Wonka though...


Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 09:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Hedley Lamarr: "Now go and do that voodoo that you so WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL"

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Oops, that should read:

"Now go and do that voodoo that you so do WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL"

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

No, no, it should read:

"Now go and do that voodoo that you do so WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL"

Oh fuck it

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link

"Now go do that voodoo that you do so WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL."

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:22 (nineteen years ago) link

heddy lamarr?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link

TS:

Hedley

http://www.scvhistory.com/gif/lw2145g.jpg

vs.

Hedy

http://www.scripting.com/images/hedyFull.jpg

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link

My favorite inventor!

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

My favourite everything

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link

six years pass...

gene wilder

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 August 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

ned beatty
patrick mcgoohan
richard pryor
scatman crothers

this guy:

http://www.peoplequiz.com/images/bios/Ray-Walston.jpg-4710.jpg

and this guy:

http://images.tvrage.com/people_galleries/14/39645/74789.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075223/

in ... THE SILVER STREAK

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

You had me thinking he was dead there. Phew!

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:00 (twelve years ago) link

Is that Ray Walston? (xxp)

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:00 (twelve years ago) link

My kids have got to see Blazing Saddles at some point. They're jumping up and down about Four Lions being on TV next week....

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:00 (twelve years ago) link

Will you have to explain to them why "The sheriff's a ni-" is funny tho?

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:02 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe, but they will no doubt understand the point being made.

"No Irish" - (i.e. nothing changes really) " oh go on then, the Irish as well" (i.e. it's a movie, not real life unfortunately)

Thing is, I was put off seeing it because all my mates were like "OH IT'S GREAT COWBOYS EAT BEANS AND FART!!! YEAH!!! AHAHAHA !! ***PTTHHHH&&&&***** AHAHAHA!!!"

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:04 (twelve years ago) link

It's sublimely silly, but nevertheless is one of the best films about racism ever made,

Very so. The other best comedy about racism, in my opinion, was "Who framed Roger Rabbit", etc another thread.

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:05 (twelve years ago) link

"Mongo... Santa Maria!"

I think I know every line of dialogue.

Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

young frankenstein > blazing saddles, for wilder and in general

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'd second that.

"Ovaltine?"

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

delivery of 'what hump?' and stoneface stare contest afterwards

always remember, there's no 'i zing' team (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

i'd contend that stir crazy and silver streak are better than either of those

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:26 (twelve years ago) link

Can't agree with you there. "The Producers" is still his best performance.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:30 (twelve years ago) link

I also disagree.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/itvmidlands/itv_midlands_images/atv/progs/celebsquares76b.jpg
"You're right to disagre...."

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:38 (twelve years ago) link

I think the majority disagree... the majority? See the majority... Where's the majority...

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 09:41 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

"Werewolf"

"Werewolf?!"

"There. There a wolf. There a castle"

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

i love gene wilder

SO

MUCH

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, April 24, 2005

otm. looooved silver streak as a kid, rip jill clayburgh

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

Film4, Now!

Mark G, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

alas i am yankish

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

shit's sake someone put a NOT RIP in thread title you scared me

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

career rip

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

I saw a DVD of "Rhinoceros" with Wilder & Mostel. All I remember is Mostel kisses a framed photo of Nixon.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

Fine Film.

(Did I say that already?)

Mark G, Monday, 30 April 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

In the DVD commentary they really emphasized what AN AMAZING PIECE of GENIUS UNPARALLED IMPROV that spontaneous Nixon smooch was. It makes me feel like I'll never understand the 1970s. xp to myself

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

it's astonishing how often lines like "then we're awake.. but we're very puzzled" pop into my head.

piscesx, Monday, 30 April 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

oh no, RIP

goole, Monday, 29 August 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

this is fabulous if you haven't seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geluLZ-S21Q

piscesx, Thursday, 1 September 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

The blu's of The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother and Haunted Honeymoon have had their release bumped up to next week in light of Wilder's passing, and I'm guessing my library will get them. I'm pretty sure I saw bits of HH as a kid, and didn't even think it was funny then, but how is Sherlock?

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 September 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

I remember the reviews of 'smarter' being lousy, then seeing the movie and thought it 'great' and 'nothing wrong with it', that'd be 40 years ago or thereabouts

Mark G, Thursday, 1 September 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

fwiw I loved The Frisco Kid as a kid, kind of want to re-watch it and see if it holds up.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 1 September 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

TCM showing Young Frankenstein, Start the Revolution Without Me, The Frisco Kid, Bonnie and Clyde and a 2008 convo between Wilder and Alec Baldwin tonight.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 September 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Did Wilder direct Haunted Honeymoon? That is a terrible movie that I will absolutely watch again.

― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:48 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 11 November 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

i rewatched Woody's Everything About Sex last night. I still believe Wilder loved that sheep.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Looked at Silver Streak again today, and man it stinks, with the exception of the shoe-polish scene Pryor rewrote, and the one where RP poses as a steward and turns the tables on Patrick McGoohan right after PM blurts out the N-word at him. Otherwise it's a superlame North by Northwest ripoff. Not even Wilder's charm gets employed much, and Jill Clayburgh is just The Girl.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 February 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

Yeah silver streak sucks
So does stir crazy
There's no gainsaying it.

Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 25 February 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

yeah i got suckered into Silver Streak on Netflix, man was that a mess. Wilder and Pryor are very likeable, I'll give it that, but it's really without structure, like they just kept filming and figured "I'm sure we'll start having ideas for scenes soon!" Not too many worthwhile jokes either, and very little of what happens really depends on the characters. I will say most of the effects at the end are pretty good, except one really obvious composite shot, but why this comedy winds up with a giant setpiece like that is beyond me.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 4 March 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link

I have an irrational, sentimental love for Silver Streak - it got repeated on British TV all the time when I was very young, and was my first "favourite movie" (along with Superman II, probably). I rewatched it a few months ago and really enjoyed it. I mean, obviously it's not a classic, and Wilder's seduction of Clayburgh is a hilariously awful - but there's lots of good stuff outside of the Pryor scenes: Ned Beatty being a jerk, and then a hero, and then dead; Wilder getting thrown off the train for the second time; the fight with Jaws (!); the train crash; McGoohan's grisly death. It's "adult" but totally simple - a great movie for kids, basically.

Also (retrospectively) the farewell scene between Wilder and Pryror at the police station is quite moving. ("If you ever need anything, don't call me.")

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 4 March 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Start the Revolution Without Me predates the genre spoofs of Mel Brooks by a few years, and feels like something of a dry run for those as a result; TV vet Bud Yorkin doesn't have Brooks' precision, and quite a few of the gags here feel a little too... obviously carefully crafted, I guess, to have the exhilaration of great comic filmmaking. But Wilder is never funnier than whenever he's trying to work his way through an awkward/tense situation, and there are plenty of those here, and I appreciated the takedown of the laboured metaphorical dialogue typical of historical epics ("To pull the tail of a lion is to open the mouth of trouble and reveal the teeth of revenge biting the tongue of deceit"). Also, Hugh Griffith's performance as King Louis is an unexpected marvel: he's genuinely endearing, and far more poignant than the film requires.

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Saturday, 10 August 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link


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