edwards always felt like a televangelist to me. gore was a colossal fuckup imo, he ran a terrible campaign. i felt like he had it in the bag early on but he just played right into bush's hands. kerry is a decent guy who never had a real chance imo, i realize the polls were close-ish but still...he was running less as an answer to the country's problems and more of "hey at least i'm not bush."
― omar little, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
Two different "prediction" threads:
Predict the electoral vote of the US Presidential ElectionPredict the electoral vote of the US Presidential Election
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
er...hangon
Predict the results of the 2004 US Presidential Election
Romney's "Hey at least I'm like Bush!"
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
Kerry
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, March 12, 200
i feel like romney is a combination campaign-wise of both gore's errors and kerry's "other guy" routine.
― omar little, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
Today I have my first significant doubt that Bush will win.
I will admit that Gabbneb's unrelenting ground campaign--endles, spintastic poll posting--has given me pause, but it has never been overly convincing.
It's because Bush is allegedly going after the Third Rail of politics tonight: Social Security. I am shocked he has the audacity to do this at the convention.
Even though Social Security (and more importantly, Medicare) is in dire need of reform, Kerryco has the brains to avoid discussing it in a forum such as this. Bush is set to open up a huge can of worms, and the Kerry campaign is going to be given a time-tested issue to hammer away with in the next two months. I am shocked Bush is going to hand over an issue that Kerry will be able to demogogue so easily with seniors, given the ramifications in states like Florida.
― don carville weiner, Thursday, September 2, 2004
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
then every talk i went to at school that year was about the 04 liberal depression fuck red states shit, which is kind of hard to take coming from English professors.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
i remember election night 04 because i got out the vote in milwaukee in a dismally poorly organized effort (08 put it to shame) and drove back to chicagoThat's funny, I canvassed in Milwaukee from Chicago that day too. I rode the bus there and back, and as I recall there was no radio or updates on the way back, by the time I arrived it looked to be over.
― boxall, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
gore campaign was hobbled by an uncharismatic candidate running in the shadow of a super charismatic president (not that this has to be a problem - see poppy bush - but gore made it one somehow anyway, despite the 98 midterms the dems somehow never figured how that the lewinsky affair had actually helped them) w/ bob shrum and donna brazile as yr strategists. and he still won the popular vote and florida.
― balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
Even more than 2000 this was the year when RED VERSUS BLUE got currency and I hated it.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
the thing that sticks out in my mind about '04 is the democrats I knew irl being like "maybe we shouldn't bring up things like gay marriage anymore"
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
I can't blame Gore for what happened in '00, the media vendetta against him that year was unstoppable
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
haha balls: I'm reading Peter Baker's gabbneb-esque The Breach on the Clinton impeachment and Dem incompetence on capitalizing on public support for throwing out the GOP bums by limiting it to the '98 race (which nevertheless defied 60 years of history) is depressing.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
I can't blame Gore for what happened in '00,
haha yes you can -- even with the vendetta
ok maybe I can lol
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
still of all the politicians they could have branded as a liar, they chose Gore in 2000 smh
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
I watched the '04 returns in a bar, then the next night went and saw I Heart Huckabees and thought it nailed Red State vs. Blue State. Haven't seen it since, so I can't remember why.
― canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
that movie is hilarious
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
would've made Lily Tomlin my nominee
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
WORD
― balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
haha yes you can
I'm not sure that you can. Media landscape feels different to me now.
― timellison, Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
In 04 I just remember feeling destroyed the next day
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
But maybe in a way it was a good thing. Politics will never, ever fuck me up like that again. No longer a virgin.
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
I felt destroyed for probably the next two months. I'm normally pessimistic but I had built up some hope that Kerry could win. xp
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
For real
It was like living a nightmare
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it was the worst
― horseshoe, Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
I recently found the playlist of angry songs I played on my college radio show the night after the '04 results, with 'thefacebook.com' scrawled at the top. All told, a sadly apropos document of where things went severely wrong in the mid-2000s.
― Old Lunch, Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
I always remember a paid Dukakis spot, must have been a whole half-hour bio and campaign piece, running on, I think, one of the main networks onelection night '88. I just remember that thing running while the election was already a foregone conclusion and how sad it was.
― timellison, Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
Dukakis definitely the worst Dem candidate of my lifetime.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vr842TpBWE
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
super lulz
― Mordy, Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
Wow.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
duuude
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
he was a boy?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/09/everybodys-president.html
Don't know if anybody else watched this, but I thought Obama was really clunky, especially early on--he's been using the line about his daughters and men with guns for two years. There was something he said at one point that made me laugh, but I can't remember what it was. (The clip is edited down quite a bit.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 20 September 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/blow-i-know-why-the-caged-bird-shrieks/?hp
wow, charles blow letting loose
― j., Thursday, 20 September 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
"Mitt Romney keeps showing America who he is. When will we start to believe him?"
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 20 September 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link
― timellison, Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://www.hulu.com/watch/284748
― balls, Thursday, 20 September 2012 04:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/xfd3D.gif
― canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
o yeah
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
did he really tan up for univision
― goole, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
its was just bad tv makeup
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
^^^this. sort of don't understand how he ever got the nom tbh.
I always hated Kerry. Anyone who voted for the Iraq war is imho either a cynical sycophant or a moron, it was a total dealbreaker for me. While I desperately wanted Dubya to lose, I had few illusions about Kerry's prospects, and was still bummed when he lost. Of course, the next 4 years were an unmitigated disaster for our country, but the whole decade was such a colossal tragedy.
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
As I recall, the non-dukakis candidates were a damned skimpy meal. my memory says things like paul tsongas and that illinois guy with the bow-ties. I could google it, but can't be arsed.
― Aimless, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
Nobody wanted the black guy to get the nom
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
Tsongas was '92, Paul Simon in '88 – and Hart, Biden (lol), a few.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
michael's brother jesse, you mean
― Aimless, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
hart was good but then he had a lil problem
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link