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peoepl are sexual mosnters!

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 13 September 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

her BFI book on 'the birds' actually isn't bad, definitely don't bother with anything else though.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

she is so terrible. do rapists tend to like her? normally I'd feel a question like that would be unfair, but some of this is just rape apologetics.

"Women have menstruation to tell them they are women. Men must do or risk something to be men. Men become masculine only when other men say they are. Having sex with a woman is one way a boy becomes a man."

"A girl who lets herself get dead drunk at a fraternity party is a fool. A girl who goes upstairs alone with a brother at a fraternity party is an idiot. Feminists call this 'blaming the victim.' I call it common sense."

"Aggression and eroticism are deeply intertwined. Hunt, pursuit, and capture are biologically programmed into male sexuality."

"Feminism, with its solemn Carry Nation repressiveness, does not see what it is for men the eroticism or fun element in rape, especially the wild, infectious delirium of gang rape."

THE FUN ELEMENT IN RAPE. ok, moving on.

"Today's young women don't know what they want."

"The theatrics of public rage over date rape are their way of restoring the old sexual rules that were shattered by my generation."

"There never was and never will be sexual harmony."

"She must be prudent and cautious about where she goes and with whom. When she makes a mistake, she must accept the consequences and, through self-criticism, resolve never to make that mistake again. Running to Mommy and Daddy on the campus grievance committee is unworthy of strong women. Posting lists of guilty men in the toilet is cowardly, infantile stuff."

"Beware of the deep manipulativeness of rich students who were neglected by their parents. They love to turn the campus into hysterical psychodramas of sexual transgression, followed by assertions of parental authority and concern."

"Masculinity is aggressive, unstable, combustible. It is also the most creative cultural force in history."

Mordy, Saturday, 15 September 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

truly one of those rare authors whose bad reputation is not just deserved but maybe not bad enough

Mordy, Saturday, 15 September 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

holy smokes. did you find all of those quotes in her writings yourself?

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 16 September 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

yes, this week

Mordy, Sunday, 16 September 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

tough week. but worthy.

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 16 September 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

I scanned back through this thread and, boy howdy, if a writer's worth could be judged by the quality of their defenders, Vision's methods of arguing would force me to think that the only people who like Paglia must be smug, pedantic, wannabe intellectuals who lack the breadth to deserve that designation and the sense to recognize their deficiencies.

Aimless, Sunday, 16 September 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

Looking at Mordy's collection of quotes, I'd pick the final one as the least defensible, no matter what context has been lost. The three characteristics of masculinity she selects are not the salient ones. Unstable? In contrast to what? Femininity?

Then, to name masculinity as "the most creative force in human history" is so baseless a declaration as to defy analysis. Can she have failed to notice that masculinity is massively more abundant than creativity? Or that creativity is not exclusive to the masculine? Among ex cathedra pronouncements, this rates as one of the stupidest I have ever encountered.

Aimless, Sunday, 16 September 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

i'll cop to not really being aware of paglia in anything other than the vaguest academic sense (i went to college!) but those quotes are amazingly, monumentally, awful

catbus otm (gbx), Sunday, 16 September 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

also the opening of this thread is all-time

catbus otm (gbx), Sunday, 16 September 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

from that interview i think "crazy old dyke" is dead on. a crazy old dyke in the right place at the right time. i'm not familiar with who it was that bought her horseshit though. confused women and men both? is her stuff on a pua / ayn rand / misogynistic nerd continuum? how did people take it seriously (did they)? xp

free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Sunday, 16 September 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

yeah those first two posts are basically alpha and omega

free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Sunday, 16 September 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

xp "dyke" is unfortunate i guess. more like hyper-closeted / repressed.

free-range chicken pox (Matt P), Sunday, 16 September 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/10/camille_paglias_glittering_images/

I haven't read it yet but I'm looking forward to it! (The interview, not the book. I'm done reading Paglia books forever, I think.)

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

HI I AM THE AMAZING RANDY

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link


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