The Show Me (How Dense You Are) State
― Ogni tanto mi piace un'occhiata del Tevere (Michael White), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
glad they're clearing this up:
http://www.barackobama.com/truth-team/entry/fact-check-president-obama-has-aggressively-pursued-and-addressed-national
President Obama has done more than any other administration to forcefully pursue and address leaks of classified national security information. Here are the facts:The Obama administration has prosecuted twice as many cases under the Espionage Act as all other administrations combined.Under the President, the Justice Department has prosecuted six cases regarding national security leaks.Before he took office, federal prosecutors had used the Espionage Act in only three cases.
The Obama administration has prosecuted twice as many cases under the Espionage Act as all other administrations combined.Under the President, the Justice Department has prosecuted six cases regarding national security leaks.Before he took office, federal prosecutors had used the Espionage Act in only three cases.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahaha great strategy there
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
americans care more about protecting leaks than protecting whistleblowers
― Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
they really do!
although, i think it's also accurate to say that americans give maybe one shit about protecting whistleblowers, and two shits about protecting leaks.
― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not sure they're wrong to feel that way.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
Americans don't care a jot about whistleblowers as soon as someone starts banging on about "NATIONAL SECURITY"
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
Bradley Manning appreciates Mordy's support
Leaks to Kathryn Bigelow are kosher, tho
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
they aren't leaks when the prez is openly releasing the info, morby
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
i would like to state for the record on ilx so that there is no confusion in posterity that i do not support bradley manning
― Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
what's your opinion on dan ellsberg?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
i think ellsberg was not a united states army soldier when he leaked the pentagon papers
― Mordy, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
that's specious. he was working for RAND and mcnamara at the pentagon. pretty sure he signed some non-disclosure forms.
― Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
five of these six people are not soldiers: http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2012/01/six-americans-obama-and-holder-charged-under-the-espionage-act-and-one-bonus-whistleblower.html
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
The selectiveness in which the Obama administration goes after some whistleblowers but not others is discussed here:
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/06/22/the-vindictive-prosecution-of-cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakou/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
buy that brand, Mordy.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
Americans only about supporting the narrative that Obama is a politician who 'leaks' stuff for political gain. It's not the leaks that important, it's that it is one more sliver of made-up evidence that he's a bad guy.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
wow mordy
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
It's not that the 2 parties are the same, it's that most of their voters are.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
Also yeah LOL how is it a leak if it is The President presenting the info. Leaks are info that higher-ups don't want released...
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, September 4, 2012 7:12 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes, this is a narrative certainly on the minds of most americans
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
I'm willing to accept on civil disobedience grounds that Manning should be punished by the Code of Military Conduct or whatever but not that we didn't deserve what he revealed.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
hm
Romney tax records hacked?
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/anonymous-group-allegedly-hacked-romney-tax-records-franklin-firm
― hail dayton (brownie), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
well done, creeps!
― Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
bitcoin ransom!
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
The left is arguably getting a better return from just making him insist that he doesn't have to show them.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
s/making/letting/
The price of drone blowback
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/05/drone_blowback_is_real/
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
Morbs I don't know why you think anyone would listen to you anymore.
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
make like a Russian and fuckov
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
We are not not ragging on people for posting links, surely?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
*not now
dude is trolling the Democratic convention thread
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
And dude is posting interesting links on this thread. Behave yourself.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
ok mom
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
i'll behave
can i have some cookies and milk now
No, go out and play, we'll call you when dinner is ready.
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
is this the demcon thread? i thought that was the 'symmetry demanded it' 2012 thread
― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeah we have too many goddam threads
― Newgod joins this board, and quickly he's some dude (goole), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
I promies no new threads if you vote for me
― USADA Bin Dopen (dayo), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
hey guys, i have a right to respond to morbs when he posts something--he can choose to ignore me.
i will refrain from posting anything directed to him in this thead tho if that works for you guys
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
i think you should post whatever you like mr que you are rarely not on point
― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
this isn't even the demcon thread tho idk why the response was warranted in this case
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 5 September 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
disgusted by a liberal friend encouraging people not to vote because it isnt worth it. seriously furious atm
― the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Thursday, 6 September 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah as irritated as i am by some of the things Obama has done, the idea of a Romney-led America is really chill-inducing.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 September 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/willardfoxton2/100007533/on-assange-and-on-cnn-glenn-greenwald-is-talking-out-of-his-hat-and-is-an-embarrassment-to-the-guardian/
Brit right-wingers going after Greenwald now that writes for the Guardian.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
Someone should poll the current US politics threads.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/09/obama-talks-drone-strikes
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
Interesting interpretation of "due process"
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link