his "let's evolve the bat narrative" mentality has definitely been found in comic books, and i like some of the changes he's overseen, but i think his antipathy to overly blatant bat-camp leads him down some embarrassing paths, as it has comic book authors. i'm not trying to apply some false binary where either he's comic booky or not.
― da croupier, Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
Actually belongs in the Batman Begins thread but whatevs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7enjABApKWE
― R=J-L (Leee), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha that's somehow really great even though you know exactly what it's going to be from the title.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
you guys are ridiculous, tom hardy is far and away the best thing about this movie, don't cry because you didn't get to see his mouth
― joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:53 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is otm even if he sounds like a more actorly version of seth mcfarlane in hellboy 2
michael caine cried in every scene i think
also seconding that link way upthread that said the climbing stuff was moronic; it maybe made sense dramatically but it was so wrong that i was def pulled out of the narrative for a sec
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
i have no idea what was good about Tom Hardy's performance that any number of people couldn't have done just as well. totally the weak link of the movie for me, especially considering how good Hathaway was.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
haha im the complete opposite because hathaway felt so disposable to me.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
tho its funny in retrospect that bane ended up just being another one of hardy's sensitive bad boys
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
i loved his goofy muffled voice. fun to imitate.
― let's keep this board about feet, please. (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
he was definitely one of the funnier parts of the movie. i just don't get what was impressive about his performance.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
he did some pretty serious acting with his eyeballs, bro.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
with his eyeballs, BROTHER!
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not saying he put in a ~Great Performance~, i'm saying he was more fun than anything else in this very serious, very stupid movie
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
he was only fun in the sense that he was the stupidest thing about it!
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
whoa now let's not go crazy, there are a lot of candidates for that title
― zachylon (zachlyon), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
true...i just felt like a lot of the movie's problems can be traced back to Bane in one way or another
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
you could say he was the... BUGABOO of the movie
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
omg
― www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
finally saw this on Saturday
p much everything I thought has been said upthread, but for posterity
- overall I really enjoyed it; cried at the end when I thought b-man was dead, happy tears when he wasn't, the whole nine. - hathaway's catwoman was cool. I heard someone on a podcast (can't remember who now) talk about the complaints that she was too glib/quippy, but that in the context of the life she's led up to that point, it's more of a defense mechanism so even when b-man rolls into gotham after being gone and her face sorta reads ! thank god! she's all 'thought you were dead', whatevs. I just liked the way she played it, where you could often read the emotion on her face but she was guarding herself by what she chose to saythat being said her and b-man's attraction wasn't really set up a whole lot. maybe there were cut scenes? idk
- lots of daylight. and the city itself is now clearly, mostly NYC (pittsburgh bridges/heinz field notwithstanding), where before it was kind of a city *like* Chicago, *like* NYC but not either of those places exactly. I felt like once they were doing those aerial shots and showing us it's NYC, it just took me out of the batman world more than I wanted? It always felt like a batman movie grounded in realism before...whereas now with the daylight and definite location shots, it started to feel like a real movie that just happened to have batman in it. which I didn't like quite as much.
- but I loved seeing Bane out in broad daylight. the showdown between the thugs and the cops in the street was p cool
- loved bane's voice, felt very bond villain to me. I liked that this huge muscle bound monster was contrasted by an almost aristocratic, mastermind-y voice. it gave you the feeling that there was more to the character than they were showing you, allowing you to guess at the layers? idk. sad crying eyes killed me. loved that scene.
anyway mostly yay, just lots of little niggly bits that kind of bugged me but not really.
loved the who's who of cameos. Ben Mendelsohn! That guy from Torchwood! That guy from Stargate SG1!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
"b-man" really cracking me up
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
still pissed off about the daylight thing
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
someone said upthread, the daylight thing was cool for a few moments in the other 2 movies like wow seeing them in their costumes in the day adds a nice reality to them, but yeah...it was too much for me, I think.
plus I feel like Nolan's kind of a night-time palette guy? Like, the Joker's costume was so well designed for darkness, to be kind of bright without being circusy. And batman's costume, even in the dark is textured and, as Nina Garcia would say, very editorial (lol)
The daylight, I feel like he loses a bit of his steez, imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it feels like half of his non b-man movies might've had less daylight than d-knight rises
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
this movie kinda hit a sweet spot in being good enough to be a satisfying summer blockbuster but not so 'good' that moron fanboys genuinely believe it should be nominated for best picture
― balls, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
xp
hmmmm trying to remember. i think there's a lot of daylight in most of them. inception wasn't too nighty. nor momento iirc. ("iirc" would be a good alternate title for that movie.)
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
― balls, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:00 PM Bookmark
Yeah, I mean essentially it just dialed back the quality from TDK to the level of, like, a pretty damned good superhero movie. I'd rank Spider-Man 2 above it, and tie it with maybe Iron Man.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
insomnia's all day all da time
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
like the dark knight being constructed well enough and begging to be taken seriously so much leads to you possibly actually taking it seriously and finding that the entire thing is really very very dumb (and then having to deal w/ fanboys who, having never dealt w/ serious grownup art before, don't get that something that is capable of being scrutinized /= something that will stand up to scrutiny). tdr was more sloppily constructed and less forceful in its pretensions and as a result i didn't mind that somehow this one was even dumber. if anything it was a relief.
― balls, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
xxposts hrm...well then maybe I can caveat my musings to say that I mean Nolan as darkness-dude w/r/t the Dark Knight trilogy? That saves me from being completely rong, kind of? lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
Daylight is one of the reasons the last Terminator sucked so.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
BAN ALL DAYLIGHT
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
BANE, ALL DAYLIGHT
― Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
^ accurate tagline for this one
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://twitter.com/TebowIsAmish/status/235560717426753536
― some dude, Monday, 15 October 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
How far would a plane continue to fly if its wings fell off mid flight? Like based on its altitude, groundspeed, flight path, etc.?
About like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hedLTEbhjJ0
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
this would be the worst movie of the year if prometheus hadn't come out.
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
oh c'mon you really don't think there were worst movies than those 2?
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
worst=worse
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
Finally watched this today... If the bare minimum theme for a Batman movie is "will I be entertained for however long I have to sit through this?" then TDKR was completely successful. I haven't followed Batman in print since the mid-90s so I kept wondering if the bits and pieces of characters and plots that didn't make any sense were just slalom flags to keep the current nerds happy while Nolan plays Bat Katamari Damashī.
Scene at the Pit Prison felt like a perfect cliffhanger break point from the 60s-era two-parters. Really wanted a scene where Gotham News Network airs a Bane propaganda video that ends with him growling out in Bane-voice "Will Batman fix his back and escape the Pit Prison of Death? Who has the detonator for the atom bomb? And just who is the mysterious Catwoman? Stay tuned... same bat time, same bat channel!"
A+ thread BTW.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
BTW, despite just seeing it a few hours ago, I have already forgotten most of what happened except that I was disappointed that there was no Bat Snake Plissken scene to get into Gotham.
Considering writing a long blog post about how movie urban planning has entered an uncanny valley. Gotham looks so good-but-not-quite-real that it's creepy as hell - I can't imagine anyone living there outside of background extra cannon fodder.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:46 (eleven years ago) link
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:28 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not that i saw!
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
maybe i just hate nolan but this has everything to do with nolan
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
that great critical post about him someone put here, i think from emerson? saying that nolan only wants you to pay attention to one thing at a time, so he leads you by the hand from one scene to the next. doesn't spend any time working in the periphery, both in the script and in the set design.
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
gotham also just looked like it was constructed with the world's largest/bleakest duplo set
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:57 (eleven years ago) link
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:28 PM
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:49 PM
i'd recommend you see dark shadows and the dictator, except i wouldn't
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link
lockout. it doesn't get worse than Lockout
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link
This movie was great
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 05:44 (eleven years ago) link
ehh this movie...its not so bad
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link
Lockout was rad
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link
everyone who worked on lockout should be tried for war crimes
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link