RIP Neil Armstrong

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good "humble" bureaucrats are cool they just don't usually inspire 500+ rip threads.

xp because i like you

ayonanas (Matt P), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

"the best way to look at problems under a clear light so u can start untangling them? free form writing and keeping it real bro." - karl popper

balls, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

so he was basically a good bureaucrat

― ayonanas (Matt P), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:12 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk what this is beyond PFFT PEOPLE DOING THEIR JOBS but yeah like good for him he was good at doing his job. your 'what's to admire about getting a man into space' is profoundly lolworthy.

-i guess the earth pictures tease at the possibility of a transformation.

philosophically generous of you, like if only they'd maybe shot at a better angle they could have teased something really deep out of it?

http://libraries.mit.edu/archives/exhibits/apollo/img/earthrise.jpg

very sexual album (schlump), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

anyway RIP moonman, you seemed like a decent guy who was probably more repelled by hero worship than anyone.

ayonanas (Matt P), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

Much as you can get a clear sense of someone's character when you see how they behave when under duress, so too can you get a sense of how big of an IRL douche someone is by how they comport themselves in an RIP thread.

Old Lunch, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

*farts*

ayonanas (Matt P), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

Feels like an appropriate time for this beautiful, beautiful song.
It's 4 in the morning, July in '69; me and my sister, we crept down like shadows
They're bringing the moon right down to our sitting room, static and silence and a monochrome vision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QEtyms1sGU

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

matt p did you know that you can be impressed by the sheer physical magnitude of an achievement and also at the very same time think that the forces that led to it were bogus? saying 'my god' at the blast of a nuke isn't the same thing as saying 'we should do that all the time'

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

this is so not the same as a nuke, though?! it couldn't be more different?!?

http://whalen.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/area51.jpg

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

51 HINT 51

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

51%

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/207184_464560156898334_1342280409_n.jpg

don't know if this is real

how's life, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

matt what do you think of this ish involving a famous german composer:

Well, what happened there is, of course—now all of you must adjust your brains—the biggest work of art there has ever been. The fact that spirits achieve with one act something which we in music could never dream of, that people practise ten years madly, fanatically for a concert. And then die. [Hesitantly.] And that is the greatest work of art that exists for the whole Cosmos. Just imagine what happened there. There are people who are so concentrated on this single performance, and then five thousand people are driven to Resurrection. In one moment. I couldn't do that. Compared to that, we are nothing, as composers. [...] It is a crime, you know of course, because the people did not agree to it. They did not come to the "concert". That is obvious. And nobody had told them: "You could be killed in the process." (Stockhausen 2002, 76–77.)

btw no one died when neil armstrong and his buddies landed on the moon, no one was killed in the process

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

or: ppl going to the moon was literally spectacular

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

well we are the society of the spectacle so

ayonanas (Matt P), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

The Kennedy Museum & NASA put together a great website for the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, it's still up and running & worth checking out.

You can go through all stages of the mission with mission control audio the whole way through (even more fun if you do it with headphones on :D ), tons of photos and film from all the various stages. Good stuff

www.wechoosethemoon.org

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

no i feel you, that stuff wows me too and space is cool, seriously xp

ayonanas (Matt P), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

if only we could all be cool bro

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

it was real

how's life, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

basically i reserve the right to be able to say 'holy shit man lands on fucking moon' and not be castigated for not staying on message about all of the bad things in the world. also the guy that was the first guy there died today, and if that gives some people a reason to pause and think 'we could be doing better, cooler things than letting poor people die and killing people with robots' then i am a-ok with it

like if we are the society of the spectacle, at least give 'em better stuff than IEDs and crowd shootings

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

Matt P & dylannn:

http://i.imgur.com/Tnr5r.gif

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

grousing about the wastefulness of space exploration is why our kids are terrible at science, btw

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

I'd agree with that.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

canks was banned for less than this
we put a man on the moon so that our generation could listen to moonwave

jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

ilx: we worship this hero
matt p: you would certainly revolt him as much as you revolt me

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

The space race was a big enough endeavor for different groups of people to exploit it different ways, but the engineers and scientists and rocket builders and astronauts and flight crews and cafeteria workers and janitors and gift shop employees and everyone who wasn't an elected official or a conspiratorial douchehammer realized that the purest purpose of reaching another heavenly object, one that no human in the history of history had ever stepped foot on before, was the most amazing thing that had and likely will ever happen (until we find another form of life).

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

ffs, going to the moon isn't just like driving to a fucking rollercoaster park 300 miles away.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

what was cankles banned for?

how's life, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

he made an offhand joke on the alex chilton rip thread. tbf chilton did make power pop.

balls, Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

Something hilariously surreal about this whole thing: Pres Nixon addresses the quarantined Apollo 11 astronauts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU0B-loHHTM&t=4m24s

That line where he tells them that he made a date with their wives; nice awkward moment there, Tricky

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

it's amazing that the man's natural modesty and understatement (his contention that going to the moon was just his job) is being used against him (that he was merely a "bureaucrat").

boy, america has changed a lot between 1969 and now.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm that doesn't seem to want to play

Try again. Start it at around 5 min for the arrival of Nixon etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU0B-loHHTM

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

I've tried to convey to my students how much we were in awe of the space program when I was in grade school in the late '60s--how they were certified celebrities on the order of athletes or pop stars today. I was even in awe of three kids in my grade 4 class--Norm Allen, Bobby Selmar, and Rich Szczepaniak--who built a really large model of Apollo 11 and brought it into school one day.

clemenza, Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

i kinda just want to look at space tonight but its cloudy

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

ffs, going to the moon isn't just like driving to a fucking rollercoaster park 300 miles away.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:56 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

c'mon man it's just going somewhere and coming back, like if you ran to the grand canyon & jumped over it & then back again, nbd

gbx otm itt

very sexual album (schlump), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

http://s12.postimage.org/op17yqhwt/neil_armstrong.jpg

ayonanas (Matt P), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

i lol'd

catbus otm (gbx), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

as i said on the RIP thread, i've just finished reading moonshot, a fairly in-depth and moment-by-moment telling of the Apollo 11 mission. what armstrong achieved - along with his fellow astronauts, and the many hundreds of NASA scientists, technicians, test pilots and so on - was so very dangerous, so very difficult, can't help but inspire me. thinking about the risks involved, the incredibly high level of concentration and discipline the mission required, the almighty step into the dark unknown... i find it both really inspiring, and really humbling. it really is a massive achievement, and its no act of hagiography to respect that, to understand armstrong was just an ordinary man, but that the course of his life and the results of his actions and his efforts were entirely extraordinary.

like i say, i look at it all and i'm humbled, as i guess many are. maybe your reaction is to feel so belittled by comparison that you have to shit all over it and make some dumb joke about it, and that's fine. i don't guess it makes you feel any less pathetic, though.

a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

and going by what you've posted in this thread, matt p, i'm guessing you're mostly ignorant of the mission, the circumstances, the results and the humans who were involved in making that all happen. it really is a story worth investigating.

a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

I have been meaning to check out Moonshot, stevie, thanks for the reminder

and otfm to all that you said.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

I was a youngster.

Post-Apollo NASA def a big letdown.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

i spent much of my childhood wanting to be an astronaut. as an adult, i just think, oh my god, they all had/have balls of steel. i could never do anything like that.

a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Saturday, 25 August 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

Looks like there are two books called Moonshot, which one are you recommending, the one by Dan Perry?

Safe European Momus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 August 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

the one that's not a history of anal porn

some dude, Sunday, 26 August 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/294648_10151123689744481_442079392_n.jpg

First man on the moon.
Homemade pizza chef.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 26 August 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

I would eat all these moonman pizzas.

Aimless, Sunday, 26 August 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link

66.6

Well, I see somebody just *had* to be the Momus of this thread.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 26 August 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link


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